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Old 02-28-2011, 11:50 PM   #451
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Well, I'm glad we have you as a source on this board.
Well thanks, though even I get kind of annoyed when my info isn't correct
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:55 PM   #452
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Well thanks, though even I get kind of annoyed when my info isn't correct
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he'd also need to grow about 2 inches in height. As a 3-4 NT, he would need to be tall enough to see the flow of the play in hopes of redirecting traffic. As a 4-3 DT, he's tall enough as his job would be penetrating into the backfield...
Really? Casey Hampton is 6'1" 325lbs and is arguably the best NT in the league. Mindfact maybe?
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft

This is a List of the Redskins all time 1st round picks, I took a look at our picks since 99 starting with Champ, Honestly outside of a few guys we have drafted pretty good imo.




Draft Player name Position College Notes
Year Pick
National Football League, Early Era (1936–1969)
1936 2 Riley Smith FB Alabama
1937 6 Sammy Baugh QB Texas Christian
1938 9 Andy Farkas RB Detroit
1939 8 I. B. Hale T Texas Christian
1940 8 Ed Boell QB New York
1941 10 Forest Evashevski QB Michigan
1942 6 Spec Sanders RB Texas
1943 10 Jack Jenkins FB Vanderbilt
1944 8 Mike Micka FB Colgate
1945 8 Jim Hardy QB Southern California
1946 9 Cal Rossi B UCLA [10]
1947 4 Cal Rossi B UCLA [10]
1948 1 Harry Gilmer HB Alabama [11]
4 Lowell Tew B Alabama
1949 8 Rob Goode B Texas A&M
1950 6 George Thomas B Oklahoma
1951 4 Leon Heath FB Oklahoma
1952 7 Larry Isbell B Baylor
1953 3 Jack Scarbath B Maryland
1954 8 Steve Meilinger E Kentucky
1955 4 Ralph Guglielmi QB Notre Dame
1956 12 Ed Vereb HB Maryland
1957 9 Don Bosseler FB Miami (FL)
1958 No first-round draft pick [12]
1959 4 Don Allard QB Boston College
1960 4 Richie Lucas QB Penn State [13]
1961 2 Norm Snead QB Wake Forest [14]
3 Joe Rutgens T Illinois
1962 1 Ernie Davis B Syracuse [15]
1963 7 Pat Richter E Wisconsin
1964 3 Charley Taylor HB Arizona State
1965 No first-round draft pick [16]
1966 6 Charlie Gogolak K Princeton
1967 13 Ray McDonald RB Idaho
1968 12 Jim Smith DB Oregon
1969 No first-round draft pick [17]
National Football League, Modern Era (1970–present)
1970 No first-round draft pick [18]
1971 No first-round draft pick [19]
1972 No first-round draft pick [20]
1973 No first-round draft pick [21]
1974 No first-round draft pick [22]
1975 No first-round draft pick [23]
1976 No first-round draft pick [24]
1977 No first-round draft pick [25]
1978 No first-round draft pick [25]
1979 No first-round draft pick [26]
1980 18 Art Monk WR Syracuse
1981 20 Mark May T Pittsburgh [27]
1982 No first-round draft pick [28]
1983 28 Darrell Green CB Texas A&I
1984 No first-round draft pick [29]
1985 No first-round draft pick [30]
1986 No first-round draft pick [31]
1987 No first-round draft pick [32]
1988 No first-round draft pick [33]
1989 No first-round draft pick [33]
1990 No first-round draft pick [34]
1991 17 Bobby Wilson DT Michigan State [35]
1992 4 Desmond Howard WR Michigan [36]
1993 19 Tom Carter DB Notre Dame
1994 3 Heath Shuler QB Tennessee
1995 4 Michael Westbrook WR Colorado
1996 30 Andre Johnson T Penn State [37][38]
1997 17 Kenard Lang DE Miami (FL)
1998 No first-round draft pick [39]
1999 7 Champ Bailey CB Georgia [40]
2000 2 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State [41]
3 Chris Samuels T Alabama [42]
2001 15 Rod Gardner WR Clemson
2002 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane [43]
2003 No first-round draft pick [44]
2004 5 Sean Taylor S Miami (FL) [45]
2005 9 Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn [46]
2006 No first-round draft pick [47]
2007 6 LaRon Landry S Louisiana State
2008 No first-round draft pick
2009 13 Brian Orakpo DE Texas
2010 4 Trent Williams OT Oklahoma





All of the guys I have in Bold were 1st round picks that I think were a very good to great selection.. I highlighted JC because he played ok for us and was a constant Professional. In fact our last 6 picks have been damn good IMO.
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What about Aubrayo Franklin of the 49ers? The Guy is 6'1 317 and is considered an elite Nose Tackle. Jay Ratliff is also barely over 300 pounds yet he's easily one of the few Cowboys that actually deserved to go to the pro bowl over the course of the last couple years.

Everyone wants Vince Wilfolk but the fact of the matter is that 3-4 teams are having no trouble plugging inplayers that are less then 320 pounds.




6'1 is actually an ideal height for a Nose Tackle in todays NFL as Guards and Centers are usually 6'2/6'3. Teams want guys that can get under the pads of these interior players, hence the short-squaty typecast.

Casey Hampton 6'1, Vince Wilfolk 6'2, BJ Raji 6'2, Aubrayo Franklin 6'1, Kelly Gregg 6'0.
He's a Big 317lbs, I bet that that weight is a lie, you really think Vince Wilfork is 320? And Casey Hamptons 330? They lie about their weights to get incentives in their contracts, because of the weight they're required to be at.

Franklin, none the less, is good, but I'd take my chances on drafting a NT like a Phil Taylor, Kenrick Ellis, Jerrell Powe who are all well over 330lbs, than paying for another vet like franklin or drafting and unproven NT who we'd be trying to change his position from 4-3 DT to 3-4 NT.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:19 AM   #456
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This is a List of the Redskins all time 1st round picks, I took a look at our picks since 99 starting with Champ, Honestly outside of a few guys we have drafted pretty good imo.




Draft Player name Position College Notes
Year Pick
National Football League, Early Era (1936–1969)
1936 2 Riley Smith FB Alabama
1937 6 Sammy Baugh QB Texas Christian
1938 9 Andy Farkas RB Detroit
1939 8 I. B. Hale T Texas Christian
1940 8 Ed Boell QB New York
1941 10 Forest Evashevski QB Michigan
1942 6 Spec Sanders RB Texas
1943 10 Jack Jenkins FB Vanderbilt
1944 8 Mike Micka FB Colgate
1945 8 Jim Hardy QB Southern California
1946 9 Cal Rossi B UCLA [10]
1947 4 Cal Rossi B UCLA [10]
1948 1 Harry Gilmer HB Alabama [11]
4 Lowell Tew B Alabama
1949 8 Rob Goode B Texas A&M
1950 6 George Thomas B Oklahoma
1951 4 Leon Heath FB Oklahoma
1952 7 Larry Isbell B Baylor
1953 3 Jack Scarbath B Maryland
1954 8 Steve Meilinger E Kentucky
1955 4 Ralph Guglielmi QB Notre Dame
1956 12 Ed Vereb HB Maryland
1957 9 Don Bosseler FB Miami (FL)
1958 No first-round draft pick [12]
1959 4 Don Allard QB Boston College
1960 4 Richie Lucas QB Penn State [13]
1961 2 Norm Snead QB Wake Forest [14]
3 Joe Rutgens T Illinois
1962 1 Ernie Davis B Syracuse [15]
1963 7 Pat Richter E Wisconsin
1964 3 Charley Taylor HB Arizona State
1965 No first-round draft pick [16]
1966 6 Charlie Gogolak K Princeton
1967 13 Ray McDonald RB Idaho
1968 12 Jim Smith DB Oregon
1969 No first-round draft pick [17]
National Football League, Modern Era (1970–present)
1970 No first-round draft pick [18]
1971 No first-round draft pick [19]
1972 No first-round draft pick [20]
1973 No first-round draft pick [21]
1974 No first-round draft pick [22]
1975 No first-round draft pick [23]
1976 No first-round draft pick [24]
1977 No first-round draft pick [25]
1978 No first-round draft pick [25]
1979 No first-round draft pick [26]
1980 18 Art Monk WR Syracuse
1981 20 Mark May T Pittsburgh [27]
1982 No first-round draft pick [28]
1983 28 Darrell Green CB Texas A&I
1984 No first-round draft pick [29]
1985 No first-round draft pick [30]
1986 No first-round draft pick [31]
1987 No first-round draft pick [32]
1988 No first-round draft pick [33]
1989 No first-round draft pick [33]
1990 No first-round draft pick [34]
1991 17 Bobby Wilson DT Michigan State [35]
1992 4 Desmond Howard WR Michigan [36]
1993 19 Tom Carter DB Notre Dame
1994 3 Heath Shuler QB Tennessee
1995 4 Michael Westbrook WR Colorado
1996 30 Andre Johnson T Penn State [37][38]
1997 17 Kenard Lang DE Miami (FL)
1998 No first-round draft pick [39]
1999 7 Champ Bailey CB Georgia [40]
2000 2 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State [41]
3 Chris Samuels T Alabama [42]
2001 15 Rod Gardner WR Clemson
2002 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane [43]
2003 No first-round draft pick [44]
2004 5 Sean Taylor S Miami (FL) [45]
2005 9 Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn [46]
2006 No first-round draft pick [47]
2007 6 LaRon Landry S Louisiana State
2008 No first-round draft pick
2009 13 Brian Orakpo DE Texas
2010 4 Trent Williams OT Oklahoma





All of the guys I have in Bold were 1st round picks that I think were a very good to great selection.. I highlighted JC because he played ok for us and was a constant Professional. In fact our last 6 picks have been damn good IMO.
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What happened from 84-90?
Bobby Beathard loved to trade away first rounders for more picks
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:36 AM   #458
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Bobby Beathard loved to trade away first rounders for more picks
hmmmm......and those were our best years. Weird
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Different time, pre-free agency, draft was longer, etc
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Isn't that crazy how well he did at the combine on a broken foot
A DB from Virginia pulled a hammy while running the 40, still he posted a 4.39 time. Insane.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:50 PM   #461
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It's so unpredictable right now with the labor mess, and add to that Shanallenahan's natural secrecy, that no one can say with any definitiveness what's happening.

That said, here are some rumors

-Want a veteran RB to share the load with Portis
-Want Sidney Rice
-Want Davin Joseph and if JB asks for too much, Ryan Harris
-Rogers is asking for a lot of money. They've been close to an agreement, then not so close, then close again, then not so close. I think ultimately he stays. But that's just my guess
-Keep hearing Quinn at #10, and maybe look to trade into the 1st for Locker late if he slips. Or possibly trade down and get Locker (or another QB: Ponder, McElroy often mentioned). Either way, not really hearing much about Locker at #10 itself. Personally, I think if they want Locker they'd be taking a pretty big gamble by waiting too far down the 1st round

Still, it's so unpredictable right now because teams don't know if they can even act on free agency

I'm curious if Jenkins or Woody would be considered?

Sidenote: I had mentioned a while back that we planned on bringing Matt Bowen back for a follow-up Q&A following the combine. We're going to put that on hold and (hopefully) will have surprise Q&A. I won't say who it is. It won't be a instantly recognizable name. But it's someone who really knows the business and spent time in a key role with the Redskins. It will be different from the usual player Q&As. We've spoken a bit recently, and I think you'll enjoy this one
Smoot...Please tell me the one about portis sharing the load was a typo and you meant to say ATV. They are not planning on bringing him back at reduced pay are they?
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Smoot...Please tell me the one about portis sharing the load was a typo and you meant to say ATV. They are not planning on bringing him back at reduced pay are they?
Whoops. Good catch. Yes, I meant ATV. Portis is not coming back. He's been out of the plans for a while now
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Whoops. Good catch. Yes, I meant ATV. Portis is not coming back. He's been out of the plans for a while now

Just on your gut feeling SS, what are the chances we actually get Rice? From 1-10 odds
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Hard to say without knowing when FA would be
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Greg McElroy almost aced the Wonderlic. Is he too smart for the NFL? - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF* - Yahoo! Sports


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Kid kind of needs to be quiet, he's not an NFL QB at all
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