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Old 03-07-2011, 05:53 PM   #496
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He won't be selected 10th overall, that's for sure. Not a dominating prospect in my opinion.
I agree.......just thought Snyder was out of the business of conducting interviews.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:52 PM   #497
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The Redskins officials conducting the interview included Snyder. Interesting when you're talking about a player projected to be less than a 1st round pick.

Redskins Insider - Baylor's Phil Taylor attracts Redskins' interest
Taylors good, but like the article said, he is a late first round pick and 10 is too high for us to take him, and and 42 is too low.

I think Kenrick Ellis and Jerrell Powe are just as good as Taylor, and just as capable of playing the NT position effectively as he would.
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NT is a very hard position to pick, it's like drawing straws. Most drafts NTs Are 50-50
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NT is a very hard position to pick, it's like drawing straws. Most drafts NTs Are 50-50
I think Steve Young said it best, to paraphrase him, DT (or NT) is a position in which desire determines success as much as anything. I know that could be said of any position, but the point he was making is that DT/NT's can have a thankless job, getting double-teamed, ending up on the bottom of a pile of 300+ lb. men. It would be easy to give up on many plays at that position, and that's what a lot of them get a bad rep for, e.g. Rogers, Haynesworth to name a couple. Taylor has the same rep to some degree.
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I think Steve Young said it best, to paraphrase him, DT (or NT) is a position in which desire determines success as much as anything. I know that could be said of any position, but the point he was making is that DT/NT's can have a thankless job, getting double-teamed, ending up on the bottom of a pile of 300+ lb. men. It would be easy to give up on many plays at that position, and that's what a lot of them get a bad rep for, e.g. Rogers, Haynesworth to name a couple. Taylor has the same rep to some degree.
Well Haynesworth is not a 3-4 NT. And the team either needs to get a 3-4 NT veteran (but not another Kemo) or develop one from the draft.
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Well Haynesworth is not a 3-4 NT. And the team either needs to get a 3-4 NT veteran (but not another Kemo) or develop one from the draft.
Agreed, though Bryant was a pleasant surprise late last year.
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Well Haynesworth is not a 3-4 NT. And the team either needs to get a 3-4 NT veteran (but not another Kemo) or develop one from the draft.
I think Bryant could be what we are looking for. Get a serviceable FA NT or a late round project NT to rotate in with Bryant and I think we will be okay. We have so many needs I'd like to see them address with higher picks elsewhere. Or if we can get a steal for the NT kid from Baylor I'd be okay with that too.
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I think Bryant could be what we are looking for. Get a serviceable FA NT or a late round project NT to rotate in with Bryant and I think we will be okay. We have so many needs I'd like to see them address with higher picks elsewhere. Or if we can get a steal for the NT kid from Baylor I'd be okay with that too.
I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
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damn that's slow...

but he's not going to earn his pay running around so no big deal
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He's a slow Byron Leftwich. His release may be quicker than BL's though. Mallet does not look like a west coast qb. Al Davis is the most likely to nab him in the 1st round, unless he still is high on JC.
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I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
This seems to be an opinion that some analysts have voiced too, though I can't recall exactly who. It makes sense, a dominant NT makes the O mismatched right from/at the snap.
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I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
Agreed. What we had last year were serviceable nose tackles. Time to find a stud.
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He's a slow Byron Leftwich. His release may be quicker than BL's though. Mallet does not look like a west coast qb. Al Davis is the most likely to nab him in the 1st round, unless he still is high on JC.

Byron was fast?
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I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
NT followed by RDE as a very close second.
You gotta have at least 1 guy up front that can consistently beat 1-v-1 blocking to the point where they can command a double team.
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