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Old 11-18-2010, 01:24 PM   #46
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This season appears to be over for us at this point even though we're still in the hunt. Anyway, where do you guys think we should go in the draft?
I think we should start looking to Canada for talent maybe even 3rd world countries and outsource our scouting to a certain Notre Dame asset name Vinny.

It's November right?
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #47
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I'm just being honest about our situation. Right now, our team is getting worse with each week. Our oline sucks, our qb suck, our rbs suck, our wrs suck, our dline sucks, our lbs suck, and a secondary suck. The 4 games that we won was by skin or our teeth to bad football teams. So forgive me if I have lost faith in us turning it around this season.

Maybe instead of draft you should have made it plural and said [draft's] With all the sucking you just mentioned, it's going to take more than a draft to un-suck all that. Think multiple.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:36 PM   #48
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There is not a solid NT in the first round, but second round is when you would get the 'best' one, and that is Jerrell Powe of Ole Miss.

Andrew Luck is considered, from what I heard, to be the next Peyton Manning. The Elway comparison, from what I understand, is yeah just because they both went to Stanford.
From what I've seen the guy is tough (you should see his blocks) smart and a great player. His dad was Oliver Luck (WV QB back in the late 70's early 80's) born in DC. Stanford is ranked 7th in the country and are 9-1, 2 reasons, Andrew Luck and Jim Harbaugh.
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I'm just being honest about our situation. Right now, our team is getting worse with each week. Our oline sucks, our qb suck, our rbs suck, our wrs suck, our dline sucks, our lbs suck, and a secondary suck. The 4 games that we won was by skin or our teeth to bad football teams. So forgive me if I have lost faith in us turning it around this season.
SO GB, CHI, PHILLY are bad teams? Do you even watch Football man?
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:50 PM   #50
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Have at it.

WalterFootball.com: 2011 NFL Mock Draft

Not much we can do for immediate help Draft-wise, we've got our 1 & 2, but our 3 & 4 are gone.
Chicago wouldn't trade Cutler for McNabb lol Where do these Idiots come up with shit like this? I swear you can write about anything anymore.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:56 PM   #51
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That Walter Football site is mess. I cant find anything over there.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:04 PM   #52
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I think we should start looking to Canada for talent maybe even 3rd world countries and outsource our scouting to a certain Notre Dame asset name Vinny.

It's November right?
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:22 PM   #53
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I mean you said Chad's over the top rant and rave reflected your thoughts yet now you're saying keep the faith. Doesn't seem like someone would be saying keep the faith so shortly after saying give me my damn money back

As for the draft, I think they go DE in the first round (depending on where they draft) and I'm going to start touting Ponder in the 2nd round

As for WR, I'm curious to know what their plans for Austin are, I know they still have very high hopes for Kelly, and they'll certainly pursue Vincent Jackson

As for the OL, i think Capers and or Cook is elevated to the active roster. The big questions are on the right side-will Brown be healthy and will we hold onto him, and one that we have all forgotten about, is Big Mike Williams ready to come back and reclaim his starting RG job. All indications are that he may just be
If that resembles the plan for the Oline Im very nervous. Im not there to see the development of Capers or Cook, but lord Capers in the Preseason...wow everytime he was on the field he was the worst player out there. It was easily seen how he fell from a 2nd round prospect to a 7th round pick.

Your right the questions on the right side...id say we lucky to get both back playin healthy again.

Hey what is the news on Big Mike...progress? He plans on playing?

Id say a prospect for us to take a look at will be Florida Pouncey at Guard. I dont think a Guard is a 1st round pick, but a second is for sure. Id like to see a good, young line in DC again.
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Chicago wouldn't trade Cutler for McNabb lol Where do these Idiots come up with shit like this? I swear you can write about anything anymore.
I'll believe it when I see it. It obviously makes an iota of sense, but at this point it's nothing more then anonymous internet people making random predictions that they won't cop to when they don't come to pass.
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If that resembles the plan for the Oline Im very nervous. Im not there to see the development of Capers or Cook, but lord Capers in the Preseason...wow everytime he was on the field he was the worst player out there. It was easily seen how he fell from a 2nd round prospect to a 7th round pick.

Your right the questions on the right side...id say we lucky to get both back playin healthy again.

Hey what is the news on Big Mike...progress? He plans on playing?

Id say a prospect for us to take a look at will be Florida Pouncey at Guard. I dont think a Guard is a 1st round pick, but a second is for sure. Id like to see a good, young line in DC again.
Anyone know what we have in regards to draft picks? Do we have a 2nd?
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:23 PM   #56
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We do have a 2nd
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KC got a 2nd for Tony Gonzalez and he's on the downside of his career. Cooley is still in his prime and a better blocker. I wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd and a 4th. A second would be enough on its own to get the deal done, imo.
That's a good point. Gotta have a buyer though.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:16 AM   #58
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I know I am going to get heckled for this 1) because I am new here, and 2) I am from PA but two things I want to comment on here.

Cooley has been great to our team over the last few years, but something happened to him and he is having an off year. Fred Davis has proven he can step up. Let Cooley go, for a good price (either a 2nd or a 3rd and 4th) and use the picks to build our weak areas.

A player that, unless I missed it, has not been talked about on here that I would like to see us draft is Stefen Wisniewski from Penn State. I have watched him play over the last couple years and he is a beast on the OL. He can play Center really well but his natural position is Guard. Both are weak points on our OL. I have seen him run downfield on screens and lay people out. He has good speed for a OL, great strength and a really good football mind. He gets overlooked a lot in regards to national media because Penn State is not known for producing OL but he is definitely an exception to the rule.
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I know I am going to get heckled for this 1) because I am new here, and 2) I am from PA but two things I want to comment on here.

Cooley has been great to our team over the last few years, but something happened to him and he is having an off year. Fred Davis has proven he can step up. Let Cooley go, for a good price (either a 2nd or a 3rd and 4th) and use the picks to build our weak areas.

A player that, unless I missed it, has not been talked about on here that I would like to see us draft is Stefen Wisniewski from Penn State. I have watched him play over the last couple years and he is a beast on the OL. He can play Center really well but his natural position is Guard. Both are weak points on our OL. I have seen him run downfield on screens and lay people out. He has good speed for a OL, great strength and a really good football mind. He gets overlooked a lot in regards to national media because Penn State is not known for producing OL but he is definitely an exception to the rule.
Welcome Scott! I don't think anyone will heckle you more than they do the others. The idea of trading Cooley has been thrown out there the last year or so on this board.

Personally, I think to say Cooley is having a bad year isn't accurate. I agree w/GTripp (another poster here) in that Cooley is having a bad recieving year, in part due to the new system & McNabb forcing the ball to him. Otherwise, Cooley is blocking better than ever. He used to get dominated by bigger LBs at the line, but he really is one of the most dependable pieces on the OL now. People often forget about the TEs when mentioning the OL, but they're part of it.

I think Cooley is too valuable as a playmaker, blocker & vet leader (by example) to trade. And his contract is good value. Of course, if someone offered multiple high picks it would be foolish not to consider it, but I don't see that happening.
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I think Cooley is too valuable as a playmaker, blocker & vet leader (by example) to trade. And his contract is good value. Of course, if someone offered multiple high picks it would be foolish not to consider it, but I don't see that happening.
I am a fast learner, and I have now learned to fully explain my point to avoid misconception. And thank you for the welcome!

I agree Cooley is very valuable as a player in regards to blocking and helping the OL. I wouldn't say he is having a bad year, just an off year (better describes my opinion). He is a great asset but, IMO, having a good back up behind him does allow some room to move him.

Honestly though, I would be just as apt to go for trading Davis. He will have some value, not as much as Cooley, but his pass play abilities would get a little value (I would guess around a 4th round pick). I just don't think with all the upgrades we need, we should keep two starting caliber TEs on the roster unless they decide to go to two TE sets next season.

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