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Old 03-22-2011, 03:43 PM   #616
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Tough to really compare because, as you point out, the league just isn't the same.

So anyway...now I hear the Browns and Niners are both very high on Quinn. (Could be a smokescreen), but if so, then never mind Quinn at #10 I guess

So long as they leave this draft with a QB, preferably Locker or Ponder, I'll be happy.
Am I wrong or does it sound like the scouting reports of Akim Ayers of UCLA say he is more versatile, better all around than Quinn? Quinn sounds like a pure pass rusher, but playing opposite Orakpo we need a guy that can cover too.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:55 PM   #617
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Am I wrong or does it sound like the scouting reports of Akim Ayers of UCLA say he is more versatile, better all around than Quinn? Quinn sounds like a pure pass rusher, but playing opposite Orakpo we need a guy that can cover too.
I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think Quinn's just as versatile. But his versatility is hidden under the fact that he's perhaps the most explosive pass rusher in this draft. Ayers doesn't have that explosiveness so his versatility is emphasized.
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I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think Quinn's just as versatile. But his versatility is hidden under the fact that he's perhaps the most explosive pass rusher in this draft. Ayers doesn't have that explosiveness so his versatility is emphasized.
Do u think Quinn will be there at 10? Apparently SF is really high on him.
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Tough to really compare because, as you point out, the league just isn't the same.

So anyway...now I hear the Browns and Niners are both very high on Quinn. (Could be a smokescreen), but if so, then never mind Quinn at #10 I guess

So long as they leave this draft with a QB, preferably Locker or Ponder, I'll be happy.
It's hard to see the Browns passing up Green if he's there. 49ers.....different story. They're currently holding our starting QB hostage, acting like they suddenly like him.

I think for Quinn to fall to us our best chance is Green to the Browns and Gabbert to San Fran. Quinn to San Fran makes a lot of sense though. Petterson would probably be the best fit if he fell that far.
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Do u think Quinn will be there at 10? Apparently SF is really high on him.
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Wow SS didn't know u like Locker? Well I'm not the only one then lol
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Wow SS didn't know u like Locker? Well I'm not the only one then lol
He intrigues me. In many ways it's the Rogers vs. Hall debate to me. When I watch Ponder, I see a guy who will be steady and perhaps underappreciated. I'm not sure though he's going to be a factor when a big play is needed. But then with Locker, I see a guy who can totally turn a game around on one play...except he could turn it around the wrong way.

I like Ponder a lot, but there's something really unique about Locker when he's at his best that Ponder can't compare to.

Beyond those two guys, even as an Iowa fan, there's really no QB in this draft that rocks my world.
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He intrigues me. In many ways it's the Rogers vs. Hall debate to me. When I watch Ponder, I see a guy who will be steady and perhaps underappreciated. I'm not sure though he's going to be a factor when a big play is needed. But then with Locker, I see a guy who can totally turn a game around on one play...except he could turn it around the wrong way.

I like Ponder a lot, but there's something really unique about Locker when he's at his best that Ponder can't compare to.

Beyond those two guys, even as an Iowa fan, there's really no QB in this draft that rocks my world.

EXACTLY! Locker has that one thing that is always overlooked! He can make plays when nothing is there.. As far as Ponder you guys know I'm not high on him but I was very impressed with the Senior Bowl game. What about CAM "Goes HAM" Newton? I say no but if he's there at 10 would Shanny take him? I think he would
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:47 PM   #624
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I don't think he'll be there, and if he is I don't think we'll take him. From what I hear, Kyle's not too high on him
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EXACTLY! Locker has that one thing that is always overlooked! He can make plays when nothing is there.. As far as Ponder you guys know I'm not high on him but I was very impressed with the Senior Bowl game. What about CAM "Goes HAM" Newton? I say no but if he's there at 10 would Shanny take him? I think he would
I'm just guessing here...but when Shanny took Cutler, there was little buzz. There's a lot of buzz about Shanny and Cam. Therefore maybe it is all smoke. Maybe Shanny has no interest in Cam. Or maybe I'm just wishing that.
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This Colin Kaepernick kid is interesting. 41 Total TD's (20 passing 21 rushing) last year, 4 year starter, finally got his accuracy up with 64.7% last year. At the very least he would certainly be able to run that classic Shanahan bootleg.

Of course I kind of flinched when I saw him compared with LeFevour and V. Young.
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U know what's sad is I really wouldn't mind Kolb but we traded a year to early with Philly
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U know what's sad is I really wouldn't mind Kolb but we traded a year to early with Philly
No way. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

On a brighter note, after seeing the highlight of Kaepernick, I like him. I like his athletic ability. He reminds me a lot of a young McNabb. I like his bootleg and scrambling ability. What do you guys think?
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^ I haven't seen him play much honestly
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:19 AM   #630
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I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think Quinn's just as versatile. But his versatility is hidden under the fact that he's perhaps the most explosive pass rusher in this draft. Ayers doesn't have that explosiveness so his versatility is emphasized.
Good explanation. Ayers sounds like a good player that didn't have great numbers during workouts, he might be there later in the 1st/early 2nd & sounds like good value. Might be one of the guys they would be hoping to get if they can trade back.
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