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Old 03-23-2011, 10:06 PM   #661
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This Kaepernick kid is the talk of sports radio in OKC, and Dallas.. I guess he may be moving up the boards fast.
You have to realize why don't you? It's because of me. I started talking about Von Miller awhile ago and he starts climbing the boards. Now I'm high on Kaepernick and he is rising up draft boards. I guess I need to keep my picks on the DL or we won't get any good picks. lol.
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:29 PM   #662
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You have to realize why don't you? It's because of me. I started talking about Von Miller awhile ago and he starts climbing the boards. Now I'm high on Kaepernick and he is rising up draft boards. I guess I need to keep my picks on the DL or we won't get any good picks. lol.
as long as you have us 9-7 next year I'm good lol
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:21 AM   #663
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It's hard to put a lot of stock in the wonderlic scores. Especially since Quincy Carter scored twice as high as Dan Marino. Either a guy can play or he can't. I see Patrick Peterson scored a 9. Despite that he'll go in the top 5, and A.J and Julio will go in the top 15. Speaking of 15, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham scored 15 on their tests. Ryan Fitz Patrick scored 3 times as high, I'll leave it at that.

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Old 03-24-2011, 08:37 AM   #664
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I agree, AJ Green or Patrick Peterson's Wonderlic matters very little to almost nothing. Though it does make you wonder how they the necessary SAT scores to get into college if they don't test well. But I think there's definitely some strong evidence to show that it matters with quarterbacks. This article does a pretty good job of laying it out -

A Formula For Drafting QBs That Works: Rule of 26-27-60 - Hogs Haven

And re: Bradshaw, Kelly, Cunningham, etc

My guess is that the Wonderlic wasn't generally perceived to matter in those days, so when stud qb's like Marino and Bradshaw got presented with a bubble test, they probably didn't pay it much attention. These days it matters, and preparing for the Wonderlic as a qb is now a part of the draft preparation, including tutors and practice sessions. Much worse to score low on a test you've prepared for and that you know is important than when you don't think it matters.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:23 AM   #665
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Bradshaw is not the type of QB you want to point to as to why the Wonderlic doesn't mater. If anything his career numbers validate the importance of the Wonderlic.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:23 PM   #666
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I want Nothing to do with Kaepernick, he's got awful accuracy and can't read defenses.
You are so right! his 36-38 performance at pro day coupled with his 64.9% completion percentage as a senior this year was terrible! What was I thinking?!? It's not like he has improved every year as a 4 year starter, oh wait... HE HAS!!!

Just because you're still bitter about pineapple jesus getting the boot doesn't mean you have to sour things for everyone else. And unlike most of the other QB's in the draft that you probably like, Kaepernick has the speed and athleticism to bootleg out and around a breakdown on the play or if he can not read the defense correctly.

You can learn to read defenses. You can't learn speed and athleticism. He's got his head on straight, hard worker, someone is going to get a steal in the draft. I hope it is us.

If we draft Kaepernick I'm changing my username KaepKrusader.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:40 PM   #667
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Kaepernick at #10 anyone?

Colin Kaepernick may be making Cutler-like climb | ProFootballTalk
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:18 PM   #668
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I guess we are going to wind up having to trade up back into the first round to get Kaepernick. He won't go top 10 though IMO. I can see him as a mid to late first round after it all settles. These draft gurus get high on someone then low on them. They go up and down the draft boards like a horse on a merry-go-round. I would love to get this kid.

Or with all the talk about teams rumored to be wanting to trade up, trade down and use the mid to late round 1st on him. Then we have a lot more ammo to go get other holes to fill. I'm excited for the draft even if owners and players can't get their heads out their @$$es.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:59 PM   #669
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KaepKrusader, what have you seen or heard about this kid that made you change your mind. For the past couple of months you made no apologies about Miller then Hudson with the second rd.
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Bradshaw is not the type of QB you want to point to as to why the Wonderlic doesn't mater. If anything his career numbers validate the importance of the Wonderlic.
jesus, no s. i never knew his numbers were that bad, his completion percentage is a joke..
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:21 PM   #671
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jesus, no s. i never knew his numbers were that bad, his completion percentage is a joke..
Does that say anything about the relationship of "the numbers" and winning?
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:21 PM   #672
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I think at best Kaepernick is a low first rounder, but probably more likely high to mid 2nd round. Still, all it takes is one...
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:32 PM   #673
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Bradshaw isn't a very good case study.

That Pittsburgh team had nine players on it who now have a bust in Canton.

Sage Rosenfels or Gus Frerotte would most likely have won multiple rings leading that dynasty of talent.
If Bradshaw had only done it once......perhaps
It will be difficult to craft an argument against 8 AFC Central titles and 4 Superbowls.
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Does that say anything about the relationship of "the numbers" and winning?
How could you pass up the chance for a great Charlie Sheen reference?

Terry Bradshaw stats?

Duh WINNING!
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:32 PM   #675
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30gut, you've posted some of the most comprehensive QB stats here. What is your take on Kaepernick? I thought he looked good at the Sr. Bowl, but honestly that is the only time I've seen him play.
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