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Old 03-30-2011, 04:09 PM   #736
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:19 PM   #737
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:20 PM   #738
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overall I think JL will be a first round QB, I hope we can get him by trading back into the 1st
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:03 PM   #739
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overall I think JL will be a first round QB, I hope we can get him by trading back into the 1st
If they really think he's their guy then I would just draft him at #10 and not try and get cute. Trading back into round 1 from #41 will probably cost them next years #1 pick...I would rather just spend this years #1 pick on him then next years. They can still try and trade back from #41 to gain extra picks and get help in other areas.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:24 AM   #740
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Caught a little of the coverage of this last night on nfl network. I couldn't pay much attention but from what I heard it sounded like he had a pretty good & accurate day. True?
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:37 AM   #741
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About what you would expect for a scripted workout. I don't think it changed his stock any.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:45 AM   #742
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About what you would expect for a scripted workout. I don't think it changed his stock any.
Yes. QB pro days are so artificial. Other than the opportunity for face time with the prospect, pro days don't tell you much unless the guy sucks in his audition. Pro days are so set up to make the guy look good that it is only really news when he fails.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:33 AM   #743
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Cam may be the most polarizing prospect because of his off-field history. Locker is the most polarizing because of his on-field history.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:52 AM   #744
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overall I think JL will be a first round QB, I hope we can get him by trading back into the 1st
After vascillating a bit on this, I think I am most comfortable with this scenario. Locker has alot of Plummer like qualities and the Snake played well under Shanny's system. Trading back a little, picking up an addidtional pick and still getting Locker would be ideal.
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After vascillating a bit on this, I think I am most comfortable with this scenario. Locker has alot of Plummer like qualities and the Snake played well under Shanny's system. Trading back a little, picking up an addidtional pick and still getting Locker would be ideal.
I just don't believe in this strategy when it comes to QBs. It's fine if you have a list of 4 defensive players on the board that you love and think you can add picks and still get one by moving down. But the QB position is unique...If Shanny likes him enough to be his franchise QB then you just quit fooling around and draft him at #10. If they trade down and open up the possibility of the Vikes taking locker at #12 then in my mind the only conclusion I am left with is they don't like Locker all that much. And if they only sort of like him then I don't think I want him here...
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:55 PM   #746
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Edit.....On second thought nevermind.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:32 PM   #747
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I just don't believe in this strategy when it comes to QBs. It's fine if you have a list of 4 defensive players on the board that you love and think you can add picks and still get one by moving down. But the QB position is unique...If Shanny likes him enough to be his franchise QB then you just quit fooling around and draft him at #10. If they trade down and open up the possibility of the Vikes taking locker at #12 then in my mind the only conclusion I am left with is they don't like Locker all that much. And if they only sort of like him then I don't think I want him here...
Mike Shanahan seems very decisive and self-assured, but his history shows some indecision, or at least struggling, w/some of his qb moves. Recently, we saw that in 2010 when he first pulled mcnabb. His story just wasn't straight, like he wasn't quite sure why he did it. I know he may have been taking the heat for his son. Then rex becomes the starter late in the year, this after Shanahan & co. traded JC & brought mcnabb here as the qb. Go back to denver & look at his history of pulling plummer, brister, etc.

My point is that he's likely quite far from being that sold on Locker, Newton or many others. Even if he likes Locker a lot, if he feels he can get him later, he'll try that. I wonder if he's truly that sold on him. My guess is that w/limited picks in the early rounds, he's not taking him at #10.
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I just don't see JL as so great that he is a must have at #10 and I think Shanny's will realize that as well. The other top three or four Qb's are just as good as JL or in some cases/skills better. Locker will and should go around 12 to 32. Keep in mind there will be a good QB or two there when we pick in the second round. I like how pro ready this kid Ponder is, he intrigues me a bit, but I think his stock has risen and will be gone when we pick in second round.
Unless Shanny is skinsfaninok in disguise and must have Locker at all cost, then we would trade down and take Locker. It would be a bad football decision to reach for a player at #10.
I really think it will ultimately depend on if there are any blue chip players left on the board at #10, a stud that can come in an instantly be good IN OUR SYSTEM. If there is not, then they have to trade down.
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Mike Shanahan seems very decisive and self-assured, but his history shows some indecision, or at least struggling, w/some of his qb moves. Recently, we saw that in 2010 when he first pulled mcnabb. His story just wasn't straight, like he wasn't quite sure why he did it. I know he may have been taking the heat for his son. Then rex becomes the starter late in the year, this after Shanahan & co. traded JC & brought mcnabb here as the qb. Go back to denver & look at his history of pulling plummer, brister, etc.

My point is that he's likely quite far from being that sold on Locker, Newton or many others. Even if he likes Locker a lot, if he feels he can get him later, he'll try that. I wonder if he's truly that sold on him. My guess is that w/limited picks in the early rounds, he's not taking him at #10.
I hear you...all i am saying is that if he's unsure then i don't really care if we get locker or not. But if he were sold on him I would rather he just take him at 10 rather then fk around with it. I am on record last year that they should have traded whatever it took to get Bradford. There is no price to high for a 10+ year franchise QB. I don't understand sitting back and watching Bradford go to St Louis only to turn around a month later and tell the media you think Bradford is the best QB prospect you have seen in years! That makes no sense to me...
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I just don't see JL as so great that he is a must have at #10 and I think Shanny's will realize that as well. The other top three or four Qb's are just as good as JL or in some cases/skills better. Locker will and should go around 12 to 32. There will be a good QB or two when we pick in the second round.
Unless Shanny is skinsfaninok in disguise and must have Locker at all cost, then we would trade down and take Locker. It would be a bad football decision to reach for a player at #10.
I really think it will ultimately depend on if there are any blue chip players left on the board at #10, a stud that can come in an instantly be good IN OUR SYSTEM. If there is not, then they have to trade down.
This may just be a typo on your part...but if a player is worth the 12th pick then he is surely worth the 10th pick.
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