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Old 04-17-2011, 08:32 PM   #1081
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft

My QB predictions from this class down the road are..

1. locker
2. Dalton
3. Gabbert
4. Mallett
5. Kaepernick
6. Ponder




SS what's the latest on VY?
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:45 PM   #1082
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:47 PM   #1083
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^ I saw an article where CJ28 said he thinks VY will be back so I was just curious
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:49 PM   #1084
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Re: Trading into the lower half of the1st round.

I would much rather get Stanzi w/ a hypothetical 3rd/4th rounder then Dalton or Ponder at the bottom of the first.

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I can predict with shocking accuracy after the draft when I know which team they get drafted by.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:52 PM   #1085
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Re: Trading into the lower half of the1st round.

I would much rather get Stanzi w/ a hypothetical 3rd/4th rounder then Dalton or Ponder at the bottom of the first.

I can predict with shocking accuracy after the draft when I know which team they get drafted by.
Very good 30gut. Just out of curiosity though, what were your thoughts on Bradford after getting drafted by the Rams? I respect your posts and am curious about your thoughts on his future.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #1086
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^ I saw an article where CJ28 said he thinks VY will be back so I was just curious
Highly unlikely, but I mean what else is CJ going to say?
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:01 PM   #1087
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Concerns about Phil Taylor.. has bones growing together in his feet, they can't correct it, it's a pain tolerance issue

Teams are red-flagging DT Phil Taylor's feet - CBSSports.com

I think at this point I'd pass on the guy
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:48 PM   #1089
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My bold prediction with this qb class and their rankings in the NFL.
1. Dalton
2. Ponder
3. Locker
4. Gabbert
5. Newton

Their draft order might be the complete 180 degree opposite. That's how bold this prediction is.
Bold or not I'm with you. Everyone is down playing Dalton like he's never going to be a starter. They say he can't run, yet all video shows him running well on designed QB sneaks. They say he has no pocket awareness, yet he knew when to escape the pass rush and make something out of nothing. They say he can't throw on the run, yet he did throw a lot from roll outs. Plus he's smart.
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I don't know how good he's going to be, Rhome says. But I tell you what, I'd put my money on him. I was there, and I don't mean to use Peyton Manning as an example, but Im going to use him as an example, I was there on his pro day and I guarantee you, Peyton Manning didn't throw the ball any better than this kid. Maybe this kid threw the ball better.

San Francisco 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh says he likes what Dalton has done in all of his games from high school to college. Harbaugh calls Dalton a him a winner.
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Above-average arm strength... High velocity thrower... Above average accuracy, throws are often between the numbers... Throws well while scrambling... Has been productive as a four year starter... Sells the pump fake... Good footwork... Does a great job going through his progressions... Rarely throws into double coverage... On the field leader, a good field general... Teammates feed off his energy... A winner; only lost three games as a starter at TCU, set the TCU record for career wins by a quarterback with 44... Able to make plays with his feet, above-average speed for the position... Routinely picks up first downs with his feet when asked to scramble... Accumulated over 1,600 yards rushing and 22 rushing touchdowns during his career.
Andy Dalton Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect
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It takes a special player to break any record held by TCU legend Sammy Baugh. Dalton shattered Baugh's 29 career victories by winning an incredible 42 games as the Horned Frogs' quarterback.



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Old 04-17-2011, 11:02 PM   #1090
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Concerns about Phil Taylor.. has bones growing together in his feet, they can't correct it, it's a pain tolerance issue

Teams are red-flagging DT Phil Taylor's feet - CBSSports.com

I think at this point I'd pass on the guy
Same with Mark Ingram (RB). I think the latest report was his injury is not healing well and actually might be a liability for the future. Now they are saying he might be projected not to get drafted until late rounds.

Report: Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards | ProFootballTalk
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:04 PM   #1091
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The Sammy Baugh factor alone should have all Skins fans welcoming Dalton with open arms! lol

I still say Pat Devlin is gonna be the biggest QB surprise to come out of this Draft.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:55 AM   #1092
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Very good 30gut. Just out of curiosity though, what were your thoughts on Bradford after getting drafted by the Rams? I respect your posts and am curious about your thoughts on his future.
I thought he would be groomed by a well trained WCO disciple in Pat Shurmur.
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Bradford showed more arm strength then I thought he had and of course will always be very accurate.

I kinda hope he has a rough year simply because I hate McDaniels, but without question McDaniels knows how to coach the passing game.

I think Bradford might start off slow this year, but will finish strong and continue to improve.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:24 PM   #1093
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Same with Mark Ingram (RB). I think the latest report was his injury is not healing well and actually might be a liability for the future. Now they are saying he might be projected not to get drafted until late rounds.

Report: Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards | ProFootballTalk
It's funny you mention Mark Ingram, but this was a following tweet from a insider. Not sure if Smoot has commented about him (ingram) yet.

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Mark Ingram knee is costing him, not graded n first n a lot of boards n no longer even considered number 1 back n e more 10:34 AM Apr 14th via web

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Old 04-18-2011, 12:33 PM   #1094
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I think Ingram will be a late first rounder and still be the top running back in this draft. Leshoure, Ryan Williams and possibly Kendall Hunter could all be 2nd rounders
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Bold or not I'm with you. Everyone is down playing Dalton like he's never going to be a starter. They say he can't run, yet all video shows him running well on designed QB sneaks. They say he has no pocket awareness, yet he knew when to escape the pass rush and make something out of nothing. They say he can't throw on the run, yet he did throw a lot from roll outs. Plus he's smart.


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Andy Dalton = Josh Heupel. I hope someone else reaches for this guy and not us. 5th or 6th rounder fine.
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