Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?

mooby · 01-03-2011, 10:17 AM

When I look at the roster and evaluate where we need help next season, it's easy to see we have a lot of open holes. And given how many qb needy teams there are at the top of the draft, odds are we might not have a shot at a good one. I think we do go BPA, I don't see Shanny reaching on a qb that he feels probably isn't worth the 10th overall pick.

QB: question mark, could go with Grossman, draft a guy, sign a stopgap option in FA
RB: Bring back Portis at a much lower salary, keep Torain and Williams and fill #2 hole if Portis leaves.
FB: Sorry Sellers. We need to upgrade.
WR: Resign Moss, we're pretty good here.
TE: We're fine with Cooley/Davis/Paulsen. Cooley could be shipped for more picks, but I wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed.
OL
LT: Set
LG: Upgrade
C: definite upgrade
RG: Upgrade
RT: Set, still wanna see how Brown plays when he's completely healthy before judgement is passed.

DE: We're good with Carriker on one side, upgrade on the other.
DT: Upgrade unless they are comfortable with Anthony Bryant and want to see how he performs over a full season.
LB: Question marks across the board. Rocky can go, he is not a 3-4 linebacker. Maybe get young guy to groom behind Fletcher, and we could use an upgrade over 'Zo at outside backer. I only feel comfortable with Fletch and Orakpo at linebacker at this point, and Fletch doesn't have many years left, esp. not given his perfect health which will run out at some point.
DBs: Resign 'Los, upgrade at FS, we'll be fine with Landry at SS and Hall/Rogers as the corners. I want to see what Kevin Barnes looks like as the 3rd cb next season too, although I'd understand if they still prefer Buchanon to him.

And upgrades at kicker/punter/long snapper would be appreciated too. I'm not sure how many of Gano's misses were Sundbergs fault but Gano was def. lookin at Sundberg and Paulescu like they were to blame for his missed chip shot against the Giants.

Ruhskins · 01-03-2011, 10:43 AM

At this point I think you need to go QB with the #10 pick and an interior lineman with the 2nd rounder or a NT. I just can't see any other position that is worth the #10 pick overall with our huge QB need (unless there's some beast of a NT out there).

This is the point where I hate having given up a 2nd rounder last year for McNabb. We could've picked up Cody to be our NT or an interior o-lineman.

Also, the FA market should be better this year if the players/owners settle this labor issue.

hooskins · 01-03-2011, 10:45 AM

We also need a FS. Needs are endless on this team, so anyone really.

freddyg12 · 01-03-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.

You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.

A qb at #10 makes sense for a no. of reasons as you've pointed out. I believe Shanahan drafted Tommy Maddox w/a 1st round pick. I remember the logic was that the team wouldn't get another opportunity to draft as high anytime soon. I hope that's the case here, that we don't draft as high as 10 for years.

CRedskinsRule · 01-03-2011, 10:56 AM

the 10 pick is a prime trading spot I think. So unless a true game changer is on the board I would be real happy to trade back to even the mid 20's if we can gain another good pick. That said, there are usually some stud LB's around that area, and maybe we could get a replacement for Fletcher or McIntosh. (Fletcher only because we don't know how much longer he can go at his position)

SBXVII · 01-03-2011, 11:01 AM

I personally liked what I saw from the Rookie NT or whoever played NT yesterday. He seemed to be able to move from side to side rather well and made some decent tackles. So I might pick up another late round young healthy NT to back him up or spell him once and a while.

I think you almost have to go either Center (which is my pick) or a young healthy RT in order to shore up the OL. Second round I actually might either look at QB Andy Dalton if still available (but thats kinda high in the draft for him unless he moves up for some reason) to develope or I'd go Guard.

I think our needs are C, RT, LB, FS, and a WR. (C) Rabach's gotta go, (RT) Brown is ok but if he's injured again who replaces him?, (LB) Replacement for Carter, (FS) Landry is more of a SS but still we need someone who can let him rest a play or two- is it Banks?, (WR) Depending on if we pick up anyone in FA I think we almost have to pick up more young WR talent. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of FA's at WR like either V.Jack or whoever else is available so we can dismiss drafting a WR and simply bring in either a late round WR or UFA WR so we can use the picks elsewhere like on OL.

Ruhskins · 01-03-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

the 10 pick is a prime trading spot I think. So unless a true game changer is on the board I would be real happy to trade back to even the mid 20's if we can gain another good pick. That said, there are usually some stud LB's around that area, and maybe we could get a replacement for Fletcher or McIntosh. (Fletcher only because we don't know how much longer he can go at his position)

Trading down would be a nice move. Still pick up a QB in the mid to late first round and pick up some more picks later on.

DCtoAZ · 01-03-2011, 11:06 AM

Wow .. Draft talk already .. there isn't much time to speculate .... i'm sure nothing will change by April ... I personally like the Blackmon WR from OSU .. why can't we get a Dez Bryant Clone ? WE NEED A WR .. Obviously Shanny has love for Grossman .. and I don't see why he can't be the bridge until the right QB becomes available ... Grossman can be a part of a playoff team .. hell he was a part of a Super Bowl ... DRAFT BLACKMON

SBXVII · 01-03-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Best available players at either:

QB, NT, DE, WR

Too early to take interior Oline pick and there will be no RB talent worthy of a pick that early.

I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.

Ruhskins · 01-03-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.

I would pick up an interior lineman in the mid to late first round (the way Pittsburgh picked up Pouncey or the Browns took Mack); but not with the #10.

Chico23231 · 01-03-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I can understand QB, NT- maybe, and WR depending on what we do in FA. but people keep saying we need a DE? I presume your refering to LB/DE? like Orakpo to take over Carter's spot?

and.... why do people keep saying RB? Torain runs better then Portis, is younger and healthier. So if we could ever get a OL to make holes for him we will be fine. Williams did well also yesterday and does a nice job at catching out of the back field. The big question is Davis whome people say is a great runner so give them a whole season to learn the scheme better and learn the blocking and they should be fine.

Too early to take interior OL? if that's our need its not. Especially since we are limited to so few picks early on. Unless we trade out for more picks. I'd say pick the best Center available who is good at zone blocking. Then maybe look at RT cause even the announcers yesterday said Brown was doing well but would be a lot better at RG if we could pick up a good RT.

Our rushing game was ranked 29th, second consecutive piss poor year. Portis is not an option. K Williams really did a great job, he's a number 2 or 3. Torrain did fine when healthy. Your number one back needs to be on the field most the time. Not 8-9 games. His health has always been an issue his entire, short career. I like him in the mix, but he not a number 1 IMO. We need help running the ball badly. I would like someone with speed.

NT IMO is a very important need especially in our epic fail of the first year 3-4. Our freakin D-Line struggled tremendously all season. Carriker is a keeper at DE....the other NT and DE need help bad. Gholston and Bryant are depth who can be used in the game day rotation. But not starters. We gave up 130.6 avg yards on the ground, 25th in the league.

I didnt understand your Oline question...you saying interior Oline is not a need? Wow your in the minority. I just wouldnt take a guard or center with the 10th pick, more of an impact player is needed IMO. I like Pouncy alot...not at 10

MonkFan4Life · 01-03-2011, 11:48 AM

I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.

skinsfan69 · 01-03-2011, 11:53 AM

I just hope they don't draft a QB unless it's Luck. I really don't think any of the other QB's are worth taking that high. You win in the trenches and we don't have enough quality players in the trenches. I'd just bring back McNabb and Grossman and try and get better players around them.

Chico23231 · 01-03-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.

Hell yeah, hes a monster. Thats my choice after looking at the available talent and what might be available to us. Mallet an interesting player, dont know if Im sold on him.

rbanerjee23 · 01-03-2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scowan

I want a new Center!!! Maybe not with that 10th pick, but we have to upgrade that push up the middle. Rabach has to go.

Ditto, bottom line is this team is so freaking bad that a good pick at really any position would be an upgrade and a necessary pick. Team doesn't get fixed with one draft + offseason so I say go either O-Line or D-Line

01-03-2011, 10:17 AM	#16
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,173	Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick? When I look at the roster and evaluate where we need help next season, it's easy to see we have a lot of open holes. And given how many qb needy teams there are at the top of the draft, odds are we might not have a shot at a good one. I think we do go BPA, I don't see Shanny reaching on a qb that he feels probably isn't worth the 10th overall pick. QB: question mark, could go with Grossman, draft a guy, sign a stopgap option in FA RB: Bring back Portis at a much lower salary, keep Torain and Williams and fill #2 hole if Portis leaves. FB: Sorry Sellers. We need to upgrade. WR: Resign Moss, we're pretty good here. TE: We're fine with Cooley/Davis/Paulsen. Cooley could be shipped for more picks, but I wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed. OL LT: Set LG: Upgrade C: definite upgrade RG: Upgrade RT: Set, still wanna see how Brown plays when he's completely healthy before judgement is passed. DE: We're good with Carriker on one side, upgrade on the other. DT: Upgrade unless they are comfortable with Anthony Bryant and want to see how he performs over a full season. LB: Question marks across the board. Rocky can go, he is not a 3-4 linebacker. Maybe get young guy to groom behind Fletcher, and we could use an upgrade over 'Zo at outside backer. I only feel comfortable with Fletch and Orakpo at linebacker at this point, and Fletch doesn't have many years left, esp. not given his perfect health which will run out at some point. DBs: Resign 'Los, upgrade at FS, we'll be fine with Landry at SS and Hall/Rogers as the corners. I want to see what Kevin Barnes looks like as the 3rd cb next season too, although I'd understand if they still prefer Buchanon to him. And upgrades at kicker/punter/long snapper would be appreciated too. I'm not sure how many of Gano's misses were Sundbergs fault but Gano was def. lookin at Sundberg and Paulescu like they were to blame for his missed chip shot against the Giants.

01-03-2011, 10:43 AM	#17
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01-03-2011, 10:45 AM	#18
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01-03-2011, 10:56 AM	#20
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,900	Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick? the 10 pick is a prime trading spot I think. So unless a true game changer is on the board I would be real happy to trade back to even the mid 20's if we can gain another good pick. That said, there are usually some stud LB's around that area, and maybe we could get a replacement for Fletcher or McIntosh. (Fletcher only because we don't know how much longer he can go at his position)

01-03-2011, 11:01 AM	#21
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick? I personally liked what I saw from the Rookie NT or whoever played NT yesterday. He seemed to be able to move from side to side rather well and made some decent tackles. So I might pick up another late round young healthy NT to back him up or spell him once and a while. I think you almost have to go either Center (which is my pick) or a young healthy RT in order to shore up the OL. Second round I actually might either look at QB Andy Dalton if still available (but thats kinda high in the draft for him unless he moves up for some reason) to develope or I'd go Guard. I think our needs are C, RT, LB, FS, and a WR. (C) Rabach's gotta go, (RT) Brown is ok but if he's injured again who replaces him?, (LB) Replacement for Carter, (FS) Landry is more of a SS but still we need someone who can let him rest a play or two- is it Banks?, (WR) Depending on if we pick up anyone in FA I think we almost have to pick up more young WR talent. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of FA's at WR like either V.Jack or whoever else is available so we can dismiss drafting a WR and simply bring in either a late round WR or UFA WR so we can use the picks elsewhere like on OL.

01-03-2011, 11:06 AM	#23
DCtoAZ Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 615	Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick? Wow .. Draft talk already .. there isn't much time to speculate .... i'm sure nothing will change by April ... I personally like the Blackmon WR from OSU .. why can't we get a Dez Bryant Clone ? WE NEED A WR .. Obviously Shanny has love for Grossman .. and I don't see why he can't be the bridge until the right QB becomes available ... Grossman can be a part of a playoff team .. hell he was a part of a Super Bowl ... DRAFT BLACKMON __________________ "F*CK THE DALLAS JUMBOTRON" NFC EAST CHAMPS RG3 will be back & #12 can run the show until hes ready.We are young w depth. 23,59,89 will all be back.Alfred Morris aka Diesel Hybrid ! @DCtoAZ81 ...2013 NFC CHAMPS

01-03-2011, 11:48 AM	#27
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skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick? I just hope they don't draft a QB unless it's Luck. I really don't think any of the other QB's are worth taking that high. You win in the trenches and we don't have enough quality players in the trenches. I'd just bring back McNabb and Grossman and try and get better players around them.

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