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Old 01-03-2011, 12:26 PM   #31
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The glowing weakness is on defense, especially, defensive line. We need a true beast at NT. We need fresh legs there and the journeymen that we have now need to be challenge with youth. Bryant needs a playmate to bring the best out of him.
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I see the skins drafting their franchise quarterback they have been chasing for the last 10 years. It will be Locker or Newton if we stay at 10. But I wouldn't be suprised if we moved up to one to draft Luck by giving up Haynesworth, two picks including the 1st and Donovan to the Panthers.

I not saying, I want that to happen but I do see the skins being dumb enough to do something like that.
I hope we trade down grab Pouncey or a WR later in the 1st.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:38 PM   #33
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Our rushing game was ranked 29th, second consecutive piss poor year. Portis is not an option. K Williams really did a great job, he's a number 2 or 3. Torrain did fine when healthy. Your number one back needs to be on the field most the time. Not 8-9 games. His health has always been an issue his entire, short career. I like him in the mix, but he not a number 1 IMO. We need help running the ball badly. I would like someone with speed.

NT IMO is a very important need especially in our epic fail of the first year 3-4. Our freakin D-Line struggled tremendously all season. Carriker is a keeper at DE....the other NT and DE need help bad. Gholston and Bryant are depth who can be used in the game day rotation. But not starters. We gave up 130.6 avg yards on the ground, 25th in the league.

I didnt understand your Oline question...you saying interior Oline is not a need? Wow your in the minority. I just wouldnt take a guard or center with the 10th pick, more of an impact player is needed IMO. I like Pouncy alot...not at 10
No, what I'm saying is I feel our lack of yrds at RB are equal to the fact our OL sucks. If we beef up the OL with the "type" of OL needed for this system to work the RB yrds should pick up. Clearly OL was a major issue and I would probably pick up a replacement for Rabach first at Center. I feel the Guards don't need to be as talented as the 3 major base points of the OL meaning LT, Center, and RT. If those 3 positions are fixed I think our current OL will fill in nicely at guard ie; Heyer, Hicks, and Montgomery and Lickenstien (sp). So in all actuality I'm saying the OL needs to be addressed, but RB does not. Torain is a really good runner, but I'll admit he needs to work on his blocking. This can be fixed with the team helping him learn where the rush should be coming from over the summer. Also some coach's do great things with a #1 RB, some coach's make #1 RB's out of the scheme they run which is where MS stands. I just thing spending a high pick for a RB or WR is a luxury at this point plus it all depends on what the team does in FA.

You mention NT and I agree with you and it was on my list of needs, but I was pleasantly supprised with the guy who played NT yesterday. I think he will work out and possibly pick up a second NT in case our guy gets hurt or needs a break.

I would pick BPA at our needed positions of Center, RT, or NT with the first 2 picks. If picking up a RT is easy late in the draft then so be it pick up a Center and NT. However I don't think Grossman is our answer completely and I'm not sure what Beck is going to offer. So we might want to look into a project QB to develope for a year. Which I brought up the TCU QB Andy Dalton, he seemed accurat, fast, strong armed, and seemed over all a decent kid. If the team could possibly drop down in the draft and pick up a 3rd round pick and hope he's there or throw in a 7th and a 5th to move up? I don't know but he might be a QB who would work well in this scheme.
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I'm going with the 6ft 4, 207lb AJ Green out of The University of Georgia !

If he falls to us I say take him.
Someone also mentioned the Center from University of Florida. He was big, fast and was nimble enough to pull on run plays.

I guess thats the Pouncy kid....

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QB Andrew Luck might not be a bad choice either I just didn't see him play.

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No, what I'm saying is I feel our lack of yrds at RB are equal to the fact our OL sucks. If we beef up the OL with the "type" of OL needed for this system to work the RB yrds should pick up. Clearly OL was a major issue and I would probably pick up a replacement for Rabach first at Center. I feel the Guards don't need to be as talented as the 3 major base points of the OL meaning LT, Center, and RT. If those 3 positions are fixed I think our current OL will fill in nicely at guard ie; Heyer, Hicks, and Montgomery and Lickenstien (sp). So in all actuality I'm saying the OL needs to be addressed, but RB does not. Torain is a really good runner, but I'll admit he needs to work on his blocking. This can be fixed with the team helping him learn where the rush should be coming from over the summer. Also some coach's do great things with a #1 RB, some coach's make #1 RB's out of the scheme they run which is where MS stands. I just thing spending a high pick for a RB or WR is a luxury at this point plus it all depends on what the team does in FA.

You mention NT and I agree with you and it was on my list of needs, but I was pleasantly supprised with the guy who played NT yesterday. I think he will work out and possibly pick up a second NT in case our guy gets hurt or needs a break.

I would pick BPA at our needed positions of Center, RT, or NT with the first 2 picks. If picking up a RT is easy late in the draft then so be it pick up a Center and NT. However I don't think Grossman is our answer completely and I'm not sure what Beck is going to offer. So we might want to look into a project QB to develope for a year. Which I brought up the TCU QB Andy Dalton, he seemed accurat, fast, strong armed, and seemed over all a decent kid. If the team could possibly drop down in the draft and pick up a 3rd round pick and hope he's there or throw in a 7th and a 5th to move up? I don't know but he might be a QB who would work well in this scheme.
Don't forget Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I love when draft talk starts 4 months early because everything will be completely bass ackwards between now and then. That being said.

I agree we need OLine and DLine upgrades, however, you should not upgrade a line position at the #10 overall pick just to do so. #10 is way too high to use on an interior lineman. You can find really good interior linemen in the later rounds. If we don't trade down we need to take the BPA in high need areas THAT FIT THE PICK. QB, WR, OT, or even NT.

I think that IMO Bryant can be the starting NT for this team and we have much greater areas of need than him. If we stay at #10 and a guy like Mallet or AJ Green is still there, take him. If we can trade down, even better.
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QB Andrew Luck might not be a bad choice either I just didn't see him play.

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Yeah, Luck is not coming out. He's staying or he goes in the top 3 picks.
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Someone also mentioned the Center from University of Florida. He was big, fast and was nimble enough to pull on run plays.

I guess thats the Pouncy kid....

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Andrew Luck seems like a good pick also I guess....

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So who you like with the 10th pick?
Well I'd pick Center. We have to give whoever is QB protection and we have to be able to make holes for the RB. I'm not a college guru but I guess it was Pouncy that I'm talking about. He seemed to be able to get out on the end while pulling to block for the RB rather quickly. He just seemed like he would fit our scheme. Big to block on passing downs and fast enough to block on the run plays. No if there is someone better then by all means pick them up. But it still boils down to picking up someone who will fit the scheme. Trent Williams was not the #1 if you remember but he fit our scheme.

So I guess a Pouncy at Center.

I'd prefer to drop down out of the pick though and get more picks preferably for a 3rd and or 4th so we recoup our picks we lost.
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Don't forget Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I love when draft talk starts 4 months early because everything will be completely bass ackwards between now and then. That being said.

I agree we need OLine and DLine upgrades, however, you should not upgrade a line position at the #10 overall pick just to do so. #10 is way too high to use on an interior lineman. You can find really good interior linemen in the later rounds. If we don't trade down we need to take the BPA in high need areas THAT FIT THE PICK. QB, WR, OT, or even NT.

I think that IMO Bryant can be the starting NT for this team and we have much greater areas of need than him. If we stay at #10 and a guy like Mallet or AJ Green is still there, take him. If we can trade down, even better.
I love big Mike but I am worried and he should be also about his blood clotting problem. My father was on blood thinners and the first thing they will tell you is don't get cut and try not to fall down and hit your head. I don't think if he's told he has to be on blood thinners he will want to be slamming helmets with other players which pretty much rules him out.

Basically I see him as a long shot to return. Count him out unless there is some decent explaination as to what caused his clotting. If he's able to return then awesome but don't count on it. Plan for the worst hope for the best.
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Good call with AJ Green .... Blackmon will probably be gone now that I think about it ... AJ Green would be ideal .. kind of a Brandon Marshall WR .. be nice next to Moss/AA/AJ ... Cooley/Davis ... SKINS are headed in right direction, i've never felt better about a 6-10 team in my life.
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I think we all can agree it all depends on what the team is able to get done in the off season in FA. My area of needs are;
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NT
LB/DE
FS
WR

One could argue QB. If they decide to keep McNabb (which I doubt) and coach him up for next year then thats one less position, but I seriously think they dump McNabb for whatever they can get and lean heavily on Grossman next year, interceptions and all. So that leaves OL, NT, LB/DE, FS, and WR. I can see them making whatever big splashes they can at WR which again narrows down the picks. Dump Moss unless he takes a pay cut, keep Armstrong, Austin, and pick up whatever top WR is available in FA.

So we are looking at OL, NT, LB/DE, FS, and maybe a QB. The choice at QB is either get a high enough pick to get one of the best or look for a developemental QB middle of the draft. We have no 3rd or 4th round pick which is where people are saying Andy Dalton might go. So again I would suggest dropping out of the 10th pick in hopes of picking up either another 2nd round pick or a 3rd and hope one of the good QB's are available.

I'd just be supprised if they put all their eggs in to move up for a QB. Grossman is not great but not bad and already knows the scheme. Bringing in another QB would mean exactly what we saw with McNabb, a QB who doesn't know the scheme as good as Grossman. So if we are going to do that lets bring in a QB who can be developed for the future and use the top draft picks to shore up the OL.
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