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Old 02-13-2011, 01:49 AM   #136
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You've spent waaaay too much time in Georgia. Despite my alma mater, I'm not a southerner, but if I was I'd be offended.

But admit it, if TCU was in the SEC, they certainly wouldn't have 12-0/11-1 type records the past few years. 10-2/9-3 is definitely possible, but not this undefeated stuff.
Oh I have no mistake, I absolutely detest the concept of SEC fans, not to mention the conference itself. I respect the conference as the best in college football but not by the gap that "SEC fans" seem to create between themselves and the Pac 10/Big XII/Big 10. Scud knows this very well.

As for Dalton, I just can't jump on board yet. He's a spread QB (which I don't necessarily hold against any QB to much) that doesn't have great physical tools. I don't know about his football IQ either as I can't find a scout thats been able to talk about it in detail.

What I see when I look at Dalton is a mid round spread QB with average physical tools all the while knowing little if anything about his football IQ. And even though I respect TCU for going out looking for tough games only to be turned down time and time again (allegedly a handful of SEC teams along with numerous others turned down frequent request to have TCU travel to play them) the fact is the only teams they did end up playing weren't to impressive until they beat Wisconsin.

Wouldn't mind acquiring a guy like him as an insurance policy "QB of the future" with a more touted prospect on board (a la a Gus Ferrote to compliment a Heath Schuler) but I just can't trust the franchises future at its most important position with what I see as an average prospect being the best option (even the Falcons had Michael Vick when they drafted Matt Schuab). As of now the only Mid round QB I have any confidence in is Ponder and even he makes me nervous.

And you're right I have spent to much time in the South.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:38 AM   #137
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After watching Newton's workout yesterday I'm convinced that this man wants to be the best he can be. And he looked damn good too. I know it's alot easier when there's not an actual pass rush, however he looked remarkable. I just hope he's still there at number 10 when we pick.
total different story when someone is throwing an zone blitz at you. workouts in tee shirts and shorts does nothing for me.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:10 PM   #138
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After watching Newton's workout yesterday I'm convinced that this man wants to be the best he can be. And he looked damn good too. I know it's alot easier when there's not an actual pass rush, however he looked remarkable. I just hope he's still there at number 10 when we pick.
JaMarcus Russell had the best workout that the scouts had ever seen. Not saying. Just saying.


I'm going on record and saying that whoever picks sCam Newton in the first round is going to be set back 3-5 years. Said the same thing about Tebow, and Vince Young too.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:15 PM   #139
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So I haven't been following this thread, but is it a foregone conclusion that we're drafting Cam?
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:21 PM   #140
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:05 PM   #141
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The Best Qbs probably are not even the big names in this one. I was wrong about Bradford, and maybe wrong about Cam, but damn, he only started one year, in one of the weaker years for SEC football IMHO. On top of that, the off the field crap only makes me wonder about his work ethic, and what he will do when he isn't handed everything on a silver platter right off the bat.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:08 PM   #142
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Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Andy Dalton looks like a good overall guy and QB. He has the tools minus the off the field question marks. His work ethic is pretty strong. The work ethic is why I am down on taking a chance with Cam. Plus, like JC, Cam had one hell of a team behind him in a rather weak year for the SEC. Other than really Bama and Auburn, with LSU tagging behind, the SEC wasn't as strong as usual.
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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?
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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?
Honestly.... Yes.
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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?
Absolutely: who outside of the SEC knew who JC was? Not me, not in the Mid- west.
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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?
They're two very different QB's. Only real similarities are they played at Auburn and they're both black. Outside of that they're not too comparable. Different systems (west coast vs spread), different personalities (introverted vs extroverted), and different styles of play (pocket vs mobile). On top of that they're different in how they project to the NFL. Newton is looked at as a low floor high ceiling prospect, while Campbell was looked at as a medium to high floor, low ceiling type prospect.

It's like saying that Heath Schuler, Rick Clausen, and Peyton Manning are similar players because they all played at Tennessee. I'll admit it's hard not to compare Newton to Campbell simply because of the two similarities I listed but they really are quite different.
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:52 PM   #147
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They're two very different QB's. Only real similarities are they played at Auburn and they're both black. Outside of that they're not too comparable. Different systems (west coast vs spread), different personalities (introverted vs extroverted), and different styles of play (pocket vs mobile). On top of that they're different in how they project to the NFL. Newton is looked at as a low floor high ceiling prospect, while Campbell was looked at as a medium to high floor, low ceiling type prospect.

It's like saying that Heath Schuler, Rick Clausen, and Peyton Manning are similar players because they all played at Tennessee. I'll admit it's hard not to compare Newton to Campbell simply because of the two similarities I listed but they really are quite different.
I didn't say they'd be similar. I'm just saying is Newton going to really be any better. That meaning, will he ever become an average NFL starter. I just don't see it and I hope we don't draft him.
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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?
I don't know about will be better b/c i'm not into the prediction thing.
But, Cam is a better prospect then Campbell.
Cam has a stronger arm, quicker cleaner more compact throwing motion, greater mobility , greater athleticism, greater playmaking.
Also Cam comes off as much more confident.
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