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| Naega jeil jal naga ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft --------------------------- On a slightly different subject, I have new peanut gallery notes on Locker and Gabbert. In watching Locker recently there were a few more specific things that bothered me. For starters he looks to run an awful lot when things break down. Ideally you'd want a guy that would use that mobility to reposition himself and find someone downfield while picking up a first down or two with their feet. But very rarely am I seeing Locker look down the field for other options. In fact he rarely seems to look down field to begin with opting for mostly short passes (all the more reason to be worried over his subpar completion percentage). Had trouble noticing if he was looking for separate options on the other side of the field Gabbert on the other hand surprised me. On the field he was the exact opposite of my concerns with Locker. While not as mobile Gabbert is certainly capable of moving about. And not only does he move around but when he can he takes a moment to reposition his feet. He's also not afraid to take shots downfield and is confident in his arm. Most impressive part of his game might have been his ability to look off coverage and find second and third options. The Performance itself is not all to impressive. However while watching Gabbert it's easy to catch the little things he's incorporated into his game. Remember to look for readjusting after scrambles, willingness to take shots downfield, and the ability to look off defenders. Still can't get over the fact that his numbers, while respectable, are no where near Chase Daniel. Locker on the other hand reminds me of a kid playing with a Mobile QB on all Madden. All to frequently he seems to zone in one guy and rarely looks downfield opting for throwing short to mid range passes when he's not scrambling for yards. Maybe his supporting cast was just that bad but Steve Sarkisian is a respected offensive mind so it's not like he was in some po dunk SEC 3 yards and a cloud of dust Wing T system.
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Disrergard.
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| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Quote:
Dude has all the tools and played in a Pro style offense, Yeah he scrambles to much but Shanny will fix that problem IMO. His accuracy isn't as bad as some think either. Is he Brees? No but he's not Jason Campbell either
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft I think that both Locker and Gabbert are good QB prospects. I've watched several of both of there games and w/ a coaching buddy of mine have charted some of their games. I've actuall charted Gabbert's game vs Illinois and although he was very productive I think disagree w/ assessment and think you choose the wrong games to prove your points. BTW-Locker was outstanding in the Oregeon State game: 5 TDs 1 INT w/ 60 yds rushing in a 35-34 overtime win. Quote:
Of the 2 QBs i thought Locker handled a crumbling pocket better then Gabbert. In general I think that both through a mix of their preference and offensives systems greatly favor their 1st reads(which is common for college QBs) and both offenses favor short routes as evidenced by the fact that both have sub 7.0 YPA. Locker's offense by design is about 60/40 mix of 1 step or quick 3-step and get the ball out quickly from a pro-set and roll out, sprint out, dash outside the pocket stuff. Gabberts is a shotgun spread with mainly half-field but some full field reads. Imo Gabberts offense lends itself more easily to making multiple progression reads because there are more options per play. **The graininess of the Oregon State game makes it harder to read Locker's helmet direction. Quote:
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Anyone of the QB's who are middle of the road or have dropped down to middle of the road (ie; Locker) then there is nothing but up side. QB's who were middle of the pack ( and I'm only counting like the top 5-7 like everyone else is doind) starting out and quite possibly will be the top QB this year (Newton) have a lot to lose. I remember everyone saying right after the bowl games that Locker was the top man and that teams had a lot to lose possibly drafting him, however Newton was flying under the weather and had a lot of upside. After the Senior Bowl the rolls reversed. Whoever gets evaluated as the top prospect and possibly #2 and #3 could be drafted prior to the Skins at #10. Last night on the NFL network they were debating whether the Panthers would or should go after a QB.... half the announcers said they should the other said no go defense. Almost everyone is agreeing that the Bills will probably take a QB. Rumor is they are eyeing Newton. I'd presume him to be gone by the time the Skins pick. But the Bills are not the only team that might be looking for a QB either.... what about: Bills- drastically need a QB. Cinci- Palmer has requested to be traded. Arizona- They have two mediocre QB's, could they look for someone better? 49ers- were not happy last yr at QB. Titans- Will need a replacement for Young. Skins- I'm not saying they all will pick QB's, but I'd be supprised if a team doesn't take the top rated QB prior to the Skins pick. Maybe even the top two picks. I can see atleast Newton being gone(by the Bills) and Locker, Gabbert, and or Mallet. I'll agree most likely they all won't be gone. but I just find it funny how people are ..." hey we need to take Newton" or " hey we need to take Locker" when in reality we might not have a chance to get either unless we move up to get them which I'm against. I'd rather (if at all possible) find a trade partner to trade back to get more picks (somewhere around the 20's) and take either Ponder in the second or Dalton. Pick up another second due to the trade and pick up either DL, OL, or WR if they are not making a run at FA WR's. I'd also be very suprised if whoever we pick at QB was the starter next yr. McNabb couldn't pick up all of the offense and he's a Pro Bowl QB. More then likely Grossman starts while the Rookie learns the plays. Unless we keep McNabb and hope he learns more of the offense and decides to get his head out of his back side with his 2 min. clock management. |
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft I have to also disagree with dirtbag's assessment of Gabbert's mobility and use of it. Watching that film, I didn't feel that he handles pressure well, but I feel the same about Locker and Newton. I don't know if they learn that skillset once they get to the NFL, but from the little film that I've watched most times all 3 seem to tuck tail and run when they feel pressure. |
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Quote:
Newton and the QB from Virginia Tech strike me as QB's to be used on a team that utilizes the Wild Cat. Both didn't look comfortable in the pocket and didn't look to let plays develope before they took off on foot. Locker kinda had the same issues in regards to just taking off with the ball. Now some here will say thats why we need them cause our OL sucks and they will get the 1st down. I'm telling you the OL will be better this year and they won't need to run as much. I'd rather have a QB who is comfortable in the pocket and has pocket awareness. I've also heard Locker is not as accurate as the others and that most mechanics can be taught but accuracy is one the QB has to have. | |
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Jaime Dukes on NFL Network said something I agree about Cam Newton today, Cam needs to go to a coaching staff that is willing to alter their system to Cam's strengths. Otherwise Cam is a project. If his new team does this he might be a decent day one starter. But if they do not it will take a year or two or he might never be a great player in the NFL. Since the Shanahan's have shown they are about as flexible as Moammar Gadhafi, in changing their system for others, Washington is not the place for Cam Newton. |
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Jerry Jones creating a bit of a buzz with Cam Newton Cowboys plan to meet Cam Newton | Dallas Cowboys | Latest news and video on the Dallas Cowboy...
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| Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Dallas has been high on cam for a while now, romo isn't getting any younger so it kind of makes sense to draft him and sit for a year or 2. I've also heard they really like Ryan Mallett
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