ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

warriorzpath · 01-28-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckSkin

Newton may be an extremely gifted athlete, but I think it's a simple decision. Reach for Cam Newton at #10 or wait until next year and draft T Pryor of Ohio State in the 4th round. They are almost indentical in size -both gifted runners that can escape defenders and torch you for big gains. Pryor is a more polished passer and has started 3 bowl games with his Sr. Season only to get better. Pryor faces a 5 game suspension for selling memorabilia so his draft stock may be on the low end.

After watching Cam Newton in the bowl game with Oregon, I thought he might be okay to take with the 10th overall as long as there some assumption that he would sit at least a couple of years to develop his passing game, but after seeing some plays from Pryor and comparing- I changed my mind. If he can show a lot more accuracy throwing it deep, then maybe.

And as for Pryor, if he was coming out this year, I really doubt he would go in the fourth round. To me, he looks like a definite 1st rounder.

BuckSkin · 01-28-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

After watching Cam Newton in the bowl game with Oregon, I thought he might be okay to take with the 10th overall as long as there some assumption that he would sit at least a couple of years to develop his passing game, but after seeing some plays from Pryor and comparing- I changed my mind. If he can show a lot more accuracy throwing it deep, then maybe.

And as for Pryor, if he was coming out this year, I really doubt he would go in the fourth round. To me, he looks like a definite 1st rounder.

Being a Buckeye fan I think he is every bit and more the QB Newton is. He actually goes through his reads.( but like McNabb: deep to dump off) Unfortunately with a shortened season (5-6 games) he may fall back a couple rounds, I admit, never to the 4th. Some may question his character for selling his Big10 Championship ring and maze pants. He has proven to me his loyalty when he promised Tressel he would return in spite of his scandal.

CultBrennan59 · 01-28-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I never said it was credible just that there was a rumor out there. I think Dallas would be crazy to trade Romo, but if they are finally tired of his play I could see them doing it. Heck the Titans fired Fischer which is a supprise to me.

NFL Offseason Predictions: Is Tony Romo Trade Bait for Dallas Cowboys? | Bleacher Report

NFL Offseason Predictions: Is Tony Romo Trade Bait for Dallas Cowboys? | Bleacher Report

and yes it's bleacher report. Like I said I never said it was credible. But this is partly where it is all coming from and why I said even Dallas might be in line to draft a QB ahead of us.

People keep saying we should draft Locker but with so many teams ahead of us possibly needing a QB and if Locker is labled the best of the bunch what makes people think he will be there at #10? I'll agree anything is possible especially with Lockers stock supposedly dropping due to accuracy issues.

I would take Romo in this offense any day of the week over any of the QB's we have now on our roster, any of the QB's in the draft, any of the other QB's available for trade, and any of the QB's available in free agency

BuckSkin · 01-28-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I would take Romo in this offense any day of the week over any of the QB's we have now on our roster, any of the QB's in the draft, any of the other QB's available for trade, and any of the QB's available in free agency

Is this Candace Crawford, or Jessica Simpson??

tryfuhl · 01-28-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well with recent changes in Tennessee...I've lost a string. And that's all I'm going to say about that

Will they still be your 2nd team now?

musicmaster45 · 02-04-2011, 09:09 PM

Okay I would be so pissed if we took Newton with the tenth pick. We need to trade down. Also trade Mcnaab and Haynesworth for a pick or too. Other possibilitiies for picks would be Portis or Fred Davis but idk if trading them is the smartest thing. We need lots of players to fill holes. Not 5. I mean we get 3 OL and 2 LB and a FS and even a lower round quarterback like Dalton or Ponder.

Hog1 · 02-04-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Okay I would be so pissed if we took Newton with the tenth pick. We need to trade down. Also trade Mcnaab and Haynesworth for a pick or too. Other possibilitiies for picks would be Portis or Fred Davis but idk if trading them is the smartest thing. We need lots of players to fill holes. Not 5. I mean we get 3 OL and 2 LB and a FS and even a lower round quarterback like Dalton or Ponder.

Welcome to the WP MM45!

Terpfan76 · 02-05-2011, 12:28 AM

You know, I don't like any of these qbs and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about with this Dalton kid, but at this point, draft a qb that's within 2 years or so of being ready and give us someone to cry for when Rexy starts handing out souvenirs and pick sixes.

skinsfaninok · 02-05-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Terpfan76

You know, I don't like any of these qbs and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about with this Dalton kid, but at this point, draft a qb that's within 2 years or so of being ready and give us someone to cry for when Rexy starts handing out souvenirs and pick sixes.

Dalton has all the tools to win in the NFL, he's not just a good athlete Like locker and newton.. Dalton won a lot of games at tcu and put up good numbers, he's smart has pretty good mobility and a good arm not to mention how accurate he is. I think he's the steal of this draft

musicmaster45 · 02-05-2011, 08:32 AM

Thanks hog1. Its nice to chat with real fans. Out in Colorado we have people diluted that think the broncos are the best team ever. No way. And yeah skinsfaninok Dalton is a steal yes he might need a year on the bench but he has more potential to win in the nfl without the high price tag or the off the field issues that have plauged so many in nfl lately. Big Al for example.

Alvin Walton · 02-10-2011, 03:28 PM

Some Cam Newton hype for ya.

Trent Dilfer of Cam Newton workout: “Phenomenal” | ProFootballTalk

redsk1 · 02-10-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Some Cam Newton hype for ya.

Trent Dilfer of Cam Newton workout: “Phenomenal” | ProFootballTalk

Hmmm. There's alot of time b/n now and then but if CN's stock goes up, that's only good for us regardless if we pick him.

skinsfan69 · 02-10-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Some Cam Newton hype for ya.

Trent Dilfer of Cam Newton workout: “Phenomenal” | ProFootballTalk

I really don't care about Pro Days. JaMarcus Russell had a great pro day. The kid didn't play in a pro offense and from what I saw, really isn't a pocket guy. I really hope we don't draft this kid at #10. Him or Locker does nothing for me.

skinsfan69 · 02-10-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Thanks for the links, makes for entertaining reading. Like Jurassic Park, interesting concept, but after that......meh.

The drafting of Steven McGee a few years ago is the key though. Every team would love to have the luxury of having an Aaron Rodgers. In other words, a first round draft pick QB that you can afford to have wait and train in the wings for 3 years because you have a future hall of famer in place.

Thats just not the case though. For the most part, first rounders are expected to start these days and that luxury just is not there.

So Dallas drafted Steven McGee a few years ago, let him sit back on the depth chart, learn and develop. And if he develops correctly, at the end of Romo's contract maybe he gets the nod. He's looked good so far, but if it does not work out, there are still options open.

Romo himself sat behind Testeverde and Bledsoe for 3 years before he got his first start.

Both Bledsoe and Vinny were coming to the end of their careers. Romo has a lot of years left. McGee isn't going to start over Tony Romo. Ever.

Dirtbag59 · 02-10-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't care about Pro Days. JaMarcus Russell had a great pro day. The kid didn't play in a pro offense and from what I saw, really isn't a pocket guy. I really hope we don't draft this kid at #10. Him or Locker does nothing for me.

I still say he's a faster version of Big Ben. If he can pass while utilizing his mobility he'll be unstoppable especially in todays NFL where pass rushers and blitz packages are frequently becoming more and more difficult to stop with blocking alone.

The main key though above all else is his ability to accept tough by the book coaching, the type he'll most certainly get from the Shanahans. Apparently lack of commitment to fundamentals and learning the system is what got McNabb in trouble so if Newton is going to make that same mistake we'll just be wasting our time. However I have heard on multiple occasions that he does study hard and takes very well to coaching.

Definitely agree though about assessment of the pro day/workout. It only means so much especially when compared to game film, doctor evaluations, and in depth interviews.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Both Bledsoe and Vinny were coming to the end of their careers. Romo has a lot of years left. McGee isn't going to start over Tony Romo. Ever.

The odds of replacing a rag to riches UDFA like Romo with a late round "developmental prospect" like McGee is astounding. It's already risky enough to take developmental QB's in the first round. I'd say you'd have better luck betting all your money on 31 black in a game of roulette. Just say no to late round "developmental prospects." 99 times out of 100 they're a waste of time.

02-04-2011, 09:09 PM	#96
musicmaster45 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 373	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Okay I would be so pissed if we took Newton with the tenth pick. We need to trade down. Also trade Mcnaab and Haynesworth for a pick or too. Other possibilitiies for picks would be Portis or Fred Davis but idk if trading them is the smartest thing. We need lots of players to fill holes. Not 5. I mean we get 3 OL and 2 LB and a FS and even a lower round quarterback like Dalton or Ponder.

02-05-2011, 12:28 AM	#98
Terpfan76 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cumberland, Md Posts: 236	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft You know, I don't like any of these qbs and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about with this Dalton kid, but at this point, draft a qb that's within 2 years or so of being ready and give us someone to cry for when Rexy starts handing out souvenirs and pick sixes.

02-05-2011, 08:32 AM	#100
musicmaster45 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 373	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Thanks hog1. Its nice to chat with real fans. Out in Colorado we have people diluted that think the broncos are the best team ever. No way. And yeah skinsfaninok Dalton is a steal yes he might need a year on the bench but he has more potential to win in the nfl without the high price tag or the off the field issues that have plauged so many in nfl lately. Big Al for example.

02-10-2011, 03:28 PM	#101
Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,860	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Some Cam Newton hype for ya. Trent Dilfer of Cam Newton workout: “Phenomenal” \| ProFootballTalk __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

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