As Is 2 Round Dream Draft

SmootSmack · 01-21-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I like Christian Ponder a lot, but I think if I had my choice of him or Pat Devlin in round two, I'd take Devlin. I don't think there is a more accurate passer in this class than Devlin.

He's going to need work in under center formations because Delaware runs their pro style sets out of a pistol-like shotgun. But Flacco ran the same formations in the same offense, and he started on day one for the Ravens (thanks, tonsillitis!).

Devlin is more pro ready than Flacco was, is more accurate, and makes quicker decisions. On the down side, he's really not a great passer when flushed from the pocket by pressure. I was really impressed, instead, by his ability to stand in and deliver accurately with no space to step.

I think I'd value both Devlin and Ponder as late first rounders. Ponder throws the better deep ball of the two...at least evidenced in 2009, when his elbow wasn't an issue.

Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heard

GTripp0012 · 01-21-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Terpfan76

I've been thinking the same. I hear/see a lot of people singing Dalton's praises and hoping to get him, but I'm just not seeing why. I'm not for a moment suggesting he won't become a star, I just am not seeing what it is that has everyone so high on him.

Thing is, Dalton has really, really spectacular numbers, I'm just struggling to find a NFL quality skill. He couldn't have gotten those numbers by accident/being in the right place at the right time, but he also would never have been considered a NFL type guy before this year.

I suppose you just don't know. He'll just have to be someone I keep an eye on at the combine. Could be a steal, could be a wasted pick.

GTripp0012 · 01-21-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heard

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

SmootSmack · 01-21-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

Without being there myself I can't say for sure

2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings

IrMitchell · 01-21-2011, 04:09 PM

Do any of you guys honestly think we'll go Quarterback in round 2? If one will be taken, it will be one that Shanahan is confident with and go #10 overall.

Terpfan76 · 01-21-2011, 04:20 PM

Right now, this would be a decent draft in my opinion based on pre-combine info:

1. Quinn or Miller
2. R. Hudson or Locker if available.
5. Ben Ijalana (g) Villanova
5. Pernell McPhee (de) Miss St.
6. Eric Hagg (cb/s) Nebraska. possibly Darel Scott (rb) UMD.
7. M. Mustain (qb) USC or D. Scott and sign Mustain as a free agent or vice versa.

Paintrain · 01-21-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Without being there myself I can't say for sure
2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings

This is why we love and hate this time of year. For every 'scout' who loves a player, there's another one who hates them.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-22-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I feel that we'll probably fill a few holes in FA which could change my outlook on a Dream Draft.

To be honest, I don't think I like any player in this draft that we might get at #10 enough to draft him there. So, my ideal draft would include trading down, perhaps with Miami, if they would like to move up to take a QB they like.Maybe we could still get Von Miller (LOLB) at #15 and Stephan Wisniewski (C/G) in Round 2. Plus we could possibly get a 3rd Round pick in the hypothetical trade with Miami.

Trading down would be absolutely ideal, we need help at a lot of different positions and i am not enamored w/ anyone that will be available at #10. Trade down to get more picks and draft as many players as possible at the T, G, DE, OLB, FS/DB (depending on what we do with Rogers and where Barnes starts next season) positions.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-22-2011, 03:53 AM

Man people just say trade down like it's that easy to do. The scenario was if we didn't make any moves what is your ideal 2 round draft.

KI Skins Fan · 01-22-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Man people just say trade down like it's that easy to do. The scenario was if we didn't make any moves what is your ideal 2 round draft.

1. Locker.
2. Wisniewski.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-22-2011, 02:19 PM

OL: Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State) or Derek Sherrod (Miss State) whichever is available in Round 1. If both are available, take Wisniewski.

DL: Jerrell Powe (Mississippi) or Adrian Clayborn (Iowa) whichever is available in Round 2. If both are available, take Powe.

SkinzWin · 01-22-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

OL: Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State) or Derek Sherrod (Miss State) whichever is available in Round 1. If both are available, take Wisniewski.

DL: Jerrell Powe (Mississippi) or Adrian Clayborn (Iowa) whichever is available in Round 2. If both are available, take Powe.

I've heard Wisniewski's name mentioned a lot but is he being scouted as a 1st round value right now? I thought most people waited until the middle of the draft to take interior linement. Tackles were generally in the first two rounds.

schndr_tdd · 01-22-2011, 03:18 PM

1st pick: Von Miller LB/ Texas A&M= 6-2 243 4.56 40 time very good tackler and hard hitter with the speed to drop in coverage(they have to get him)2nd pick:Christian Ponder QB/Florida State=6-2 227 4.68 40 time,accurate arm and stronger arm than most realize,accurate out of the pocket,more pro ready than Locker. 3rd pick

if they can muster somehow by trading Haynesworthless)the best 3-4 DT available.4th pick:Austin Pettis WR/Boise State 6-3 201 4.59 40 time underated WR ,good physical receiver,was the go too guy on 3rd and longs several times this year(exactly what the Redskins need)5th,6th,7th pick:Robert Sands S/WVU 6-5 221 4.7 40 time Hard hitter,good hands,ball hawk type safety .(tagged the hardest hitting DB in the big east) Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse 6-1 300 4.95 40 time athletic ,strong Ollie Ogbu DT/Penn State 6-1 298 5.09 40 time dont know anything about him just loved the name

Dirtbag59 · 01-23-2011, 07:48 AM

I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft

1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me.

2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown.

3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan)

SkinzWin · 01-23-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft

1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me.

2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown.

3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan)

I like that scenario a lot. I've been high on Von Miller for awhile. I think it would be a tremendous pressure off of Orakpo, not allowing offenses to cheat help to his side all the time because he is the only stud up front.

01-21-2011, 04:09 PM	#80
IrMitchell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 629	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft Do any of you guys honestly think we'll go Quarterback in round 2? If one will be taken, it will be one that Shanahan is confident with and go #10 overall.

01-21-2011, 04:20 PM	#81
Terpfan76 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cumberland, Md Posts: 236	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft Right now, this would be a decent draft in my opinion based on pre-combine info: 1. Quinn or Miller 2. R. Hudson or Locker if available. 5. Ben Ijalana (g) Villanova 5. Pernell McPhee (de) Miss St. 6. Eric Hagg (cb/s) Nebraska. possibly Darel Scott (rb) UMD. 7. M. Mustain (qb) USC or D. Scott and sign Mustain as a free agent or vice versa.

01-22-2011, 03:53 AM	#84
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,005	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft Man people just say trade down like it's that easy to do. The scenario was if we didn't make any moves what is your ideal 2 round draft. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

01-22-2011, 02:19 PM	#86
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft OL: Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State) or Derek Sherrod (Miss State) whichever is available in Round 1. If both are available, take Wisniewski. DL: Jerrell Powe (Mississippi) or Adrian Clayborn (Iowa) whichever is available in Round 2. If both are available, take Powe. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-22-2011, 03:18 PM	#88
schndr_tdd Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 104	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft 1st pick: Von Miller LB/ Texas A&M= 6-2 243 4.56 40 time very good tackler and hard hitter with the speed to drop in coverage(they have to get him)2nd pick:Christian Ponder QB/Florida State=6-2 227 4.68 40 time,accurate arm and stronger arm than most realize,accurate out of the pocket,more pro ready than Locker. 3rd pickif they can muster somehow by trading Haynesworthless)the best 3-4 DT available.4th pick:Austin Pettis WR/Boise State 6-3 201 4.59 40 time underated WR ,good physical receiver,was the go too guy on 3rd and longs several times this year(exactly what the Redskins need)5th,6th,7th pick:Robert Sands S/WVU 6-5 221 4.7 40 time Hard hitter,good hands,ball hawk type safety .(tagged the hardest hitting DB in the big east) Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse 6-1 300 4.95 40 time athletic ,strong Ollie Ogbu DT/Penn State 6-1 298 5.09 40 time dont know anything about him just loved the name

01-23-2011, 07:48 AM	#89
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,953	Re: As Is 2 Round Dream Draft I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft 1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me. 2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown. 3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan) __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

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