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Old 01-23-2011, 11:34 PM   #31
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

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Many mock drafts I've been seeing lately have locker missing the first round...It seems as if he might drop much farther than the 10 pick if we do not get him.
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Old 01-23-2011, 11:37 PM   #32
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

Locker has a good head on his shoulders, but he threw a lot of INTs the past two years, and the bowl game against Nebraska this season he won with his feet and not his arm. To me he is an above average college QB, and nothing that should garner the lovefest he is.
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:42 AM   #33
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Locker has a good head on his shoulders, but he threw a lot of INTs the past two years, and the bowl game against Nebraska this season he won with his feet and not his arm. To me he is an above average college QB, and nothing that should garner the lovefest he is.
Yea, let Al Davis draft the qb who is inaccurate and runs a 4.5 40.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:32 AM   #34
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Like I've already said before, Jake Locker will be a first round quarterback because his potential is sky high. Imagine him running a team like Auburn or better yet Oregon. I know a lot of people like to pick on quarterbacks for not winning.. but Donovan McNabb went from being a Pro Bowler to a backup because of a lack of ability/talent that surrounded him.

Did anyone watch Washington when Jake Locker got injured? That was possibly the biggest disaster of a football team I've seen in years. The team didn't win a game all season, when Jake Locker returned the following year.. What were they? 5-7.

Jake Locker's play action is outstanding. That alone should give Shanahan a hard time choosing between him and Gabbert.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:08 PM   #35
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

The NFL Draft is subject to runs on a position. If two teams take kplayers at the same position near one another, it sometimes starts a run on that position as teams fear that the "gopod players" at the position will be gone before they can draft again.

Not saying this WILL happen this year, but with 4 QBs getting a lot of attention/ink, it MIGHT happen.

Newton, Locker, Mallet and Gabbert all get some mention as "top picks" and guys who "could go early". As I have said in other threads, I would none of them at #10, but if a "run on QBs starts", all four of these guys could be gone by the 15th pick.
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:36 PM   #36
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The NFL Draft is subject to runs on a position. If two teams take kplayers at the same position near one another, it sometimes starts a run on that position as teams fear that the "gopod players" at the position will be gone before they can draft again.

Not saying this WILL happen this year, but with 4 QBs getting a lot of attention/ink, it MIGHT happen.

Newton, Locker, Mallet and Gabbert all get some mention as "top picks" and guys who "could go early". As I have said in other threads, I would none of them at #10, but if a "run on QBs starts", all four of these guys could be gone by the 15th pick.
Probably as good a summation of the draft needs equation as I've read thus far.
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:43 PM   #37
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

I wonder if the same thing will happen with these year's QBs, as it did with last years QBs. Many thought Clausen and/or McCoy could go in the first round. If it wasn't for dumb a$$ McD, Tebow would not have gone in the first round as well. I wonder if all of these QBs will fall to the 2nd round.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:33 PM   #38
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

You know the big hit on Locker is that he can't throw accurately in the pocket under pressure. That says a lot about his confidence, not to mention his ability to run a NFL offense.

Hopefully we won't select a QB with the 10th pick or the 41st (?) pick in the second round.
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:38 PM   #39
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You know the big hit on Locker is that he can't throw accurately in the pocket under pressure. That says a lot about his confidence, not to mention his ability to run a NFL offense.

Hopefully we won't select a QB with the 10th pick or the 41st (?) pick in the second round.
Not that you asked but here's my view about Locker:
If we can we agree that every QB's accuracy is effected when they're under pressure?
And we can we also agree that its harder to throw on the move then in a clean pocket?
Then the question becomes how come Locker can be very accurate on the move yet appears less accurate from the pocket?

I think Mayock describes Locker's issues best here:
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Now here's the deal: Outside the pocket, he's wonderful. Very accurate, athletic, big arm. Gifted kid. Inside the pocket is the issue. His accuracy goes down and his vision goes down.
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From watching a few Washington games my impression of Locker is that his OL wasn't good and behind a better OL he would provide the best of both worlds in/out of the pocket.

I would love for him to be available in the 2nd but i doubt he'll be there.
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:57 AM   #40
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

All I want to know is weather or not he's tough enough to stay in a game and play with a grade 2 MCL tear/sprain. Sure it's an injury that takes players out for around a month but thats only because those wussy liberal natzis done be makin the rules.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:13 PM   #41
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

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Not that you asked but here's my view about Locker:
If we can we agree that every QB's accuracy is effected when they're under pressure?
And we can we also agree that its harder to throw on the move then in a clean pocket?
Then the question becomes how come Locker can be very accurate on the move yet appears less accurate from the pocket?

I think Mayock describes Locker's issues best here:


From watching a few Washington games my impression of Locker is that his OL wasn't good and behind a better OL he would provide the best of both worlds in/out of the pocket.

I would love for him to be available in the 2nd but i doubt he'll be there.


I don't think you can blame it on his OL, totally. The first day of the Senior Bowl practice he was having those same issues. His second practice day was better. Having natural ability and not putting it to use is as bad as drafting a lesser talented QB further into the draft.

Defense needs addressing more so than a QB in the first or second round.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:13 PM   #42
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yeah keep in mind with locker that he played with a crappy OLine and crappier receivers much like Jay Cutler.

I think he has a lot of potential in this offense, and reminds me of a Donovan McNabb-type QB.
I'm hoping for better than McNabb lol... More of a poor mans Steve Young is my hope.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:26 PM   #43
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All I want to know is weather or not he's tough enough to stay in a game and play with a grade 2 MCL tear/sprain. Sure it's an injury that takes players out for around a month but thats only because those wussy liberal natzis done be makin the rules.
Agreed. If you can't play with a grade II MCL tear, you're an unwanted pussy.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:32 PM   #44
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Kiper likes Newton to Redskins | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

I don't agree with all that Kiper says, but there you go
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:19 PM   #45
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I don't think you can blame it on his OL, totally. The first day of the Senior Bowl practice he was having those same issues. His second practice day was better. Having natural ability and not putting it to use is as bad as drafting a lesser talented QB further into the draft.

Defense needs addressing more so than a QB in the first or second round.
I'm not blaming his OL but stating that they're not good is pretty much a fact.
I think if Locker played behind Stanford's OL he wouldn't have these question marks.
And Locker wasn't the only QB that was off target.
I think he used every bit of ability to take that Washington team to a bowl game.
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