2011 Senior Bowl Week

SouperMeister

Really? If our D had 11 guys who played as "lazy" as Orakpo, this would be a top-5 unit. Get a clue.

CultBrennan59

How did Phil Taylor, Andy Dalton, Vincent Brown, Titus Young, Austin Pettis and Casey Matthews look in this game?

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BleedBurgundy

I took note of that too... Gotta think back to Tebow last year. He looked worse than Locker, had inferior mechanics yet he did alright...

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SirClintonPortis

I wasn't actually paying much attention, but Taylor did power over a guard in the game.

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SkinzWin

Yeah but Tebow was also the golden boy with unmatched intangibles, and something no one else can ever have.... The jump pass.

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Longtimefan

I voted QB but, with so many areas of need, a case can be made for every position listed in the poll choices. We should take a QB only if one can be found deemed to be the longterm solution to the problem at the position. Otherwise, make an attempt to trade out and help fill the other needy areas.

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juskins

SirClintonPortis, how are you this fine day?

Just a point I would like to make here. It's very difficult to change habits that have been formed for many years. That being said, I don't think the correct way of planting ones lower body will benefit some athletes that play a specialized position like QB.

This might be the reason Kyle Shanahan does not emphasis making corrections to what's natural to QBs, in other words, let them play with what comes natural to them. Of course, if it is a glaring problem then show the proper way to do the same task correctly.

Dirtbag59

If Ponder is in fact a Pennington clone with a stronger arm we would be smart to go after him.

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SirClintonPortis

Yes, muscle memory is not easy to "re-encode" yet if applied with much effort, the "new code" will "overwrite" the "old code". I think footwork is more "coachable" than many other aspects that goes into a QB's throw since.

I don't think planting is irrelevant to QB'ing since the QB uses the whole body to throw. A slight difference body part positioning is very likely to affect how the ball is going to come out.

I don't have a horse in this race as I don't know any of the QBs well enough, but I did think what Mayock pointed was interesting.

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juskins

Your first paragraph sounds like a quote from Hal the computer in the movie, "2001, A Space Odyssey".

So, would you agree that in essence Mayock was saying that patience is a virtue when thinking of drafting Locker. I hear project in what you said Mayock mentioned when talking about Locker's delivery.

The reason I mentioned the word "project" is because throwing a pass with ill-advise lower half technique is a time learning concept than say, a shoulder throwing technique. Meaning that the upper body motion is easier to correct with practice. Which in itself is less cumbersome.

SirClintonPortis

If I had to go by his Senior Bowl performance, which is the only time I actually have seen him play, I would take Locker in a lower round IF I wanted to take him. Yes, Locker needs much polish indeed.

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juskins

So realizing how the Skins are defined by schemes and positional depth, what would you do with the first round pick we have?

SirClintonPortis

The most I can say is that I would generally take BPA over need. I'm not qualified to propose anything more detailed.

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