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Old 02-18-2011, 12:08 AM   #16
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Von Miller is like Orakpo coming out. Some GM's love him and think he's worth a top 5 pick, others think he's a good prospect but overrated. I know that the naysayers think he's undersized at 237 pounds and theres some criticism about how he played so few plays compared to other starters with his prestige at the college level. GM's are eager to find out if he was taking himself out or if the coaches noticed problems with his conditioning and/or durability.

He's certainly not viewed as the Andrew Luck of Linebackers.
Good point. Yeah I remember Rak as high as 3 in the 2009 mocks. So I take back my post..... I guess you never know. It's a tough draft. We need every position pretty much. Miller is my choice if there. Then Green
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Old 02-18-2011, 08:44 AM   #17
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If WR Green or LB Miller isnt there at 10, hands down I would go DE or LB/DE position. I really hope we dont make the mistake of QB, though the worst pick would be Quinn outta UNC at 10. I rather go ahead and take Ponder or Dalton.
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Been saying it, and I won't stop.

AJ Green, unless he's gone of course.
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I really hope that we don't take a wr. We need to get better in the trenches in the worst way.
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Von Miller is like Orakpo coming out. Some GM's love him and think he's worth a top 5 pick, others think he's a good prospect but overrated. I know that the naysayers think he's undersized at 237 pounds and theres some criticism about how he played so few plays compared to other starters with his prestige at the college level. GM's are eager to find out if he was taking himself out or if the coaches noticed problems with his conditioning and/or durability.

He's certainly not viewed as the Andrew Luck of Linebackers.
thanks for the dirt on Miller, Dirt. since watching the sr. bowl, I've been wondering when I was going to hear someone talk about his size. I thought he looked very light. Have read that he plays the run well, but I would think some scouts question his every down ability as you mention.

If conditioning is his only issue, Shanny will take him in a heartbeat. All other indications are the kid is a model citizen & coachable.
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may have a shot at Jake Locker.if not,offensive linemen.
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I say trade down and get as many picks as possible, build depth on the offensive line and the defense, and then somehow finagle our way into getting Andrew Luck next year.
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I'm good with trading down, but if not, I'll take Robert Quinn. He's got the size and athletic ability to be absolutely dominant as a rush backer. He may never be as good in coverage as Miller, but I think he'll be a much better pass rusher.

As for Solder vs. Constanza, I think that Constanza is the guy if you're looking for someone to start almost immediately. However, I feel the Solder is the better overall prospect long term. I doubt he'll be ready to play right away, his biggest issues are a lack of strength and he's a little raw, but he has all the skills to be a dominant tackle be it left or right.
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I'm good with trading down, but if not, I'll take Robert Quinn. He's got the size and athletic ability to be absolutely dominant as a rush backer. He may never be as good in coverage as Miller, but I think he'll be a much better pass rusher.

As for Solder vs. Constanza, I think that Constanza is the guy if you're looking for someone to start almost immediately. However, I feel the Solder is the better overall prospect long term. I doubt he'll be ready to play right away, his biggest issues are a lack of strength and he's a little raw, but he has all the skills to be a dominant tackle be it left or right.
I didn't know he was available!

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This team needs to find a young franchise QB in the next two years if Shanahan is going to succeed and make this a championship caliber team. That or field a top 5 defense, and when I say top 5 I don't just mean top 5 in its respective year, but rather top 5 all time. Otherwise at best we'll be a team that will be very lucky to make it to the second round of the playoffs. Personally I'd be interested in waiting a year for a QB if it meant getting Nick Foles in 2012 but if he's as good as I think he is he won't be available to us.
I second the next year for waiting for a quarterback idea. Nick Foles, Matt Barkley, Andrew Luck, and Landry Jones will all be available next year and all of them could possibly be better then Gabbert or Newton.
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I really hope that we don't take a wr. We need to get better in the trenches in the worst way.
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WR is a need especially if they are going to let Moss walk. If we draft a WR at #10, that doesn't mean the OL won't also be addressed later.
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thanks for the dirt on Miller, Dirt. since watching the sr. bowl, I've been wondering when I was going to hear someone talk about his size. I thought he looked very light. Have read that he plays the run well, but I would think some scouts question his every down ability as you mention.

If conditioning is his only issue, Shanny will take him in a heartbeat. All other indications are the kid is a model citizen & coachable.
I actually just watched my first footage on Von Miller and was surprised at the amount of hype he's getting. Constantly running up field past plays and a lack of explosivness for a guy his size were two of my main concerns. All to often it seemed like Tackles were taking him out of running plays.

Quinn on the other hand reminded me more of Orakpo before the draft as he seems to have that bull rush down and is very explosive off the ball. That bull rush is so important to because it allows players to defend both the run and pass at the same time.

I feel like I'm missing key footage of Miller as he couldn't have won the Butkis Award playing in the manner I just described.





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Old 02-18-2011, 12:18 PM   #29
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I don't see Green or Peterson slipping to 10, but obviously they'd be hard to pass on if we don't take a QB or trade down.

I'd like it if we got a OL or DL, but best overall would make sense i think. I'd still love to trade down in this deep draft.
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WR is a need especially if they are going to let Moss walk. If we draft a WR at #10, that doesn't mean the OL won't also be addressed later.
Linemen drafted in the top 10 work out at a far greater percentage than WRs picked that early.

Too much risk with a WR drafted that high, plus we'd be passing up a lineman that is most likely going to make a huge difference with little to no risk.


With so many teams ahead of us possibly taking QBs because they don't know if they can get one via FA if there is no contract agreement reached...better linemen may be falling to us that would normally be top 3 or top 5 picks in a normal draft. It's a great opportunity for us and the best thing that could happen is if 3 or 4 teams ahead of take QBs. I'd like to have Gabbard of any of them, but he'll be gone, as will Newton and possibly Locker and/or Mallett.

I hope they'll all gone by the time #10 comes up, we'll get a stud lineman for a decade. Then our decision will be to take another tackle to put across from Trent, or a badly-needed interior lineman?
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