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Old 02-20-2011, 02:12 PM   #46
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I'd like to get Cameron Jordan @10 even if there is qb's available. He's ready to start as a 3-4 RE now. Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor) in the second round and then best available OLB, ILB, FS and CB to round out the draft. IMO, a defensive heavy draft this year to go with some good key young guys already on the roster (Jarmon, Barnes, Bryant, Carriker and Rob Jackson) and studs Landry and Orakpo is the best way to go.
We obviously didn't have 3-4 personnel before we made the change and it cost the 2010 season.
How about a project QB in the mid to late rounds? I would like to add that to the list, but other than that I agree. Except I'd take Von Miller over Jordan if he was still there at 10.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #47
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I'd take NT, a DE/LB, or RT, or C. Basically DL or OL it doesn't matter in which order so long as the team takes BPA at one of those needs.

Then I'd take that "shitty" QB Dalton or the other "shitty" QB Ponder in the second round. Honestly it doesn't matter who we take at QB. The only QB to know the system well enough is Grossman. Even one of the best QB's couldn't understand the whole system in one offseason (McNabb) so I doubt whoever is brought in is going to start right away.

The team might as well beef up the OL so no matter who is at QB they are not running for their life or getting it almost every play.
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I'd like to get Cameron Jordan @10 even if there is qb's available. He's ready to start as a 3-4 RE now. Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor) in the second round and then best available OLB, ILB, FS and CB to round out the draft. IMO, a defensive heavy draft this year to go with some good key young guys already on the roster (Jarmon, Barnes, Bryant, Carriker and Rob Jackson) and studs Landry and Orakpo is the best way to go.
We obviously didn't have 3-4 personnel before we made the change and it cost the 2010 season.
The pick really comes down to Marcell Dareus/Robert Quinn/Cameron Jordan if AJ Green and the QBs are off the board and we can't trade down. I dont agree with a defensive heavy draft. Our Defense, in part, played so poorly due to the fact they were ALWAYS on the field cuz our offense was inept. We couldnt run, didnt have WRs who could beat press, our QB was looking for the deep ball instead of progressing thru reads and we couldnt convert on 3rd down. We need OL, WR, and QB to go with OLB, DE, FS.

We dont need a RB cause i have trust in Torain/Davis/Williams. Especially Davis once he cleans up his Pass Protection. TE is set. I dont think ILB is a pressing need cuz Perry Riley looked leaps and bounds better than Rocky McIntosh in there. You just have to go BPA with all the spots we have to fill. I believe the Shanahans, if not in the 1st round, will trade back more than once.

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Why is everyone so high on this guy? He seems like another Adam Carriker, just getting noticed after senior bowl, type of prospect.

And to the other comment. I say if we don't get a QB in the first or second round this year, then don't bother getting one until next year, because after Newton Mallet Gabbert and Locker, the QB's in this years class suck. Yes even Andy the ginger Dalton isn't pro ready IMO, he's a backup in the NFL at best.
A starting line of Carriker, Taylor (not drafted yet) and Jordan would be very unglamorous but solid and very hard to run on. They should also free up even average LB's to make plays.

Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?
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A starting line of Carriker, Taylor (not drafted yet) and Jordan would be very unglamorous but solid and very hard to run on. They should also free up even average LB's to make plays.

Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?
Not IMO. He is depth. Big difference. I don't see anyone in the organization making a push to develop his as a long term starter for this team. Let's face it, QB's are big hits or misses in this league. I say if you can get a QB in the mid to late rounds with projected upside, go for it. Look at Brady. Worked out for the Patriots nicely, didn't it?
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So if we could I'd just get both of New England's first round picks I'd take like a Heyward and a Phil Taylor.
Or even their own first and Carolina's second for the 10 spot. But who'd they want to trade up for? Picks 28, 33 and 41 should give us NT, DE and OLB that should all immediately start but I don't think the Pats have a desire to jump up to 10.
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I'd like to get Cameron Jordan @10 even if there is qb's available. He's ready to start as a 3-4 RE now. Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor) in the second round and then best available OLB, ILB, FS and CB to round out the draft. IMO, a defensive heavy draft this year to go with some good key young guys already on the roster (Jarmon, Barnes, Bryant, Carriker and Rob Jackson) and studs Landry and Orakpo is the best way to go.
We obviously didn't have 3-4 personnel before we made the change and it cost the 2010 season.
Now here is a great comment. rypper intelligently wants to build our defensive line.

Last year's draft was tilted towards the offense. I think this year's should be tilted towards defense.
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Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?

Beck has started and shown what he can do. He's a backup at the highest, but if he needs to play, it won't be a disaster.
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Yea of course IF AJ Green is there i would snap him up. I would also like Miller to compliment Orakapo. In the later rounds we need to address kicker, lets try for nebraskas kicker who is the most accurate and college history and a free saftey if OJ isn't signing with us. No one has even scratched the surface of sean taylor's spot.
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Based on his best plays it's apparent that Blaine Gabbert is better in the shotgun then being under center. However I do like his quick release and he has above average mobility. The one thing I noticed is his deep balls get there in a hurry, I wouldn't object at all to drafting this guy.

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Beck has started and shown what he can do. He's a backup at the highest, but if he needs to play, it won't be a disaster.
To be fair Beck only started 4 games as rookie on a terrible Dolphins team.
If you pro-rate his numbers during that 4 game stint over a season he would have numbers in the same realm as Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman's rookie seasons.
I'm not commenting to say that he's good or bad; just that we don't know and can't really say.
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Jim Miller was commenting on Beck the other day on NFL Radio and he was actually pretty supportive of him and said he has all the tools you look for and is a smart guy.

He also said whether he gets a shot and is able to put it all together remains to be seen.
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Von miller!
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Sounds like LaVar needs to lay off the Madden.
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