2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thier pick in the 1st round is before our pick in the 2nd.

Really? Who would have thought that the 1st rd. was before the 2nd?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Really? Who would have thought that the 1st rd. was before the 2nd.

I caught that too, and I was quite surprised!

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Really? Who would have thought that the 1st rd. was before the 2nd?

Well, there goes my draft board!

[skinster]

Neither Rivera nor the panthers gm were seen at gabberts pro day. blows up my mock.

I'd say Peterson and Dareus are the next two in line cause I feel like they are the two safest picks. If I were a gm and were picking I'd go with Dareus because I like D-line, but I've got an inkling that its going to be peterson. Reports are that they love him, and I don't see any reason for the first overall pick to lie about who they want.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinster

Neither Rivera nor the panthers gm were seen at gabberts pro day. blows up my mock.

I'd say Peterson and Dareus are the next two in line cause I feel like they are the two safest picks. If I were a gm and were picking I'd go with Dareus because I like D-line, but I've got an inkling that its going to be peterson. Reports are that they love him, and I don't see any reason for the first overall pick to lie about who they want.

They can still try to make someone think they're taking a guy so they can trade back.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinster

Neither Rivera nor the panthers gm were seen at gabberts pro day. blows up my mock.

I'd say Peterson and Dareus are the next two in line cause I feel like they are the two safest picks. If I were a gm and were picking I'd go with Dareus because I like D-line, but I've got an inkling that its going to be peterson. Reports are that they love him, and I don't see any reason for the first overall pick to lie about who they want.

They're going to have a private workout with Gabbert. Plus I've seen reports that Panthers reps were there.

Either way, I've still got them taking Gabbert. And Bills taking Cam

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Totally guessing but

1. Gabbert
2. Peterson
3. Newton
4. Julio Jones
5. Von Miller
6. AJ Green
7. Cam Jordan
8. Nick Fairley
9. Prince Amukamara

My latest mock

1. Panthers-Gabbert
2. Broncos-Marcell Darreus
3. Bills-Newton
4. **trade** Patriots-Von Miller (Pats trading for Julio Jones has also been rumored)
5. Cardinals-Patrick Peterson
6. Browns-AJ Green
7. Eagles-Amukamara
8. Bills-Fairley
9. Cowboys-Tyron Smith
10. Redskins-Quinn
11. Texans-Cam Jordan
12. Vikings-Ponder (in a huge surprise)
13. Lions-Costanzo
14. Rams-Julio Jones
15. Dolphins-Mark Ingram
16. Jaguars-Bowers
17. Bengals-Mallett
18. **trade** Redskins-Locker

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

My latest mock

1. Panthers-Gabbert
2. Broncos-Marcell Darreus
3. Bills-Newton
4. **trade** Patriots-Von Miller (Pats trading for Julio Jones has also been rumored)
5. Cardinals-Patrick Peterson
6. Browns-AJ Green
7. Eagles-Amukamara
8. Bills-Fairley
9. Cowboys-Tyron Smith
10. Redskins-Quinn
11. Texans-Cam Jordan
12. Vikings-Ponder (in a huge surprise)
13. Lions-Costanzo
14. Rams-Julio Jones
15. Dolphins-Mark Ingram
16. Jaguars-Bowers
17. Bengals-Mallett
18. **trade** Redskins-Locker

we have the same trade scenario for the skins! I hope that happens

You gave BUF with 2 top 10 picks

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

we have the same trade scenario for the skins! I hope that happens

You gave BUF with 2 top 10 picks

We do? Cool

Meant Titans at #8. Thanks

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

My latest mock

1. Panthers-Gabbert
2. Broncos-Marcell Darreus
3. Bills-Newton
4. **trade** Patriots-Von Miller (Pats trading for Julio Jones has also been rumored)
5. Cardinals-Patrick Peterson
6. Browns-AJ Green
7. Eagles-Amukamara
8. Bills-Fairley
9. Cowboys-Tyron Smith
10. Redskins-Quinn
11. Texans-Cam Jordan
12. Vikings-Ponder (in a huge surprise)
13. Lions-Costanzo
14. Rams-Julio Jones
15. Dolphins-Mark Ingram
16. Jaguars-Bowers
17. Bengals-Mallett
18. **trade** Redskins-Locker

I'm not sure that I wouldn't prefer our taking Cam Jordan to Quinn, if that is how things shake out.

Ponder at 12 to Minny would not just be a massive surprise, it'd be heartbreaking.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

My latest mock

1. Panthers-Gabbert
2. Broncos-Marcell Darreus
3. Bills-Newton
4. **trade** Patriots-Von Miller (Pats trading for Julio Jones has also been rumored)
5. Cardinals-Patrick Peterson
6. Browns-AJ Green
7. Eagles-Amukamara
8. Bills-Fairley
9. Cowboys-Tyron Smith
10. Redskins-Quinn
11. Texans-Cam Jordan
12. Vikings-Ponder (in a huge surprise)
13. Lions-Costanzo
14. Rams-Julio Jones
15. Dolphins-Mark Ingram
16. Jaguars-Bowers
17. Bengals-Mallett
18. **trade** Redskins-Locker

Smoot...Have you heard anything new linking them to Locker or a trade up for a QB or is this just a guess?

[SmootSmack]

Um...it's mainly a guess based on other current rumors. If that makes sense

[Masshole]

I saw the article about the Chargers trading back, but that doesn't really make sense to me. Seems more likely that they would trade up, considering it's a team that has one of the best offenses and defenses in the league last year. And has an extra 2nd round pick. And did the same thing last year (traded from 28 to 12). The Chargers need both a 3-4 LB and a 3-4 DE, so if they fall in love with either Cameron Jordan or Robert Quinn, or even a WR considering both Floyd and Jackson aren't signed long term.

Also, if there's a new rookie salary structure, I think that would make the current NFL Draft Value chart skewed in a way that the top picks should now have more value. But teams (particularly those with less...demonstrated aptitude) will still be looking to trade down, probably at last year's chart. meaning smart teams like SD, NE, Philly, are all going to be looking to game the system by moving up into higher picks that, for this year at least, will be improperly undervalued by the teams that hold them.

Wonder which team the Redskins will be...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Masshole

I saw the article about the Chargers trading back, but that doesn't really make sense to me. Seems more likely that they would trade up, considering it's a team that has one of the best offenses and defenses in the league last year. And has an extra 2nd round pick. And did the same thing last year (traded from 28 to 12). The Chargers need both a 3-4 LB and a 3-4 DE, so if they fall in love with either Cameron Jordan or Robert Quinn, or even a WR considering both Floyd and Jackson aren't signed long term.

Also, if there's a new rookie salary structure, I think that would make the current NFL Draft Value chart skewed in a way that the top picks should now have more value. But teams (particularly those with less...demonstrated aptitude) will still be looking to trade down, probably at last year's chart. meaning smart teams like SD, NE, Philly, are all going to be looking to game the system by moving up into higher picks that, for this year at least, will be improperly undervalued by the teams that hold them.

Wonder which team the Redskins will be...

There was an article about the Chargers trading back?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Masshole

I saw the article about the Chargers trading back, but that doesn't really make sense to me. Seems more likely that they would trade up, considering it's a team that has one of the best offenses and defenses in the league last year. And has an extra 2nd round pick. And did the same thing last year (traded from 28 to 12). The Chargers need both a 3-4 LB and a 3-4 DE, so if they fall in love with either Cameron Jordan or Robert Quinn, or even a WR considering both Floyd and Jackson aren't signed long term.

Also, if there's a new rookie salary structure, I think that would make the current NFL Draft Value chart skewed in a way that the top picks should now have more value. But teams (particularly those with less...demonstrated aptitude) will still be looking to trade down, probably at last year's chart. meaning smart teams like SD, NE, Philly, are all going to be looking to game the system by moving up into higher picks that, for this year at least, will be improperly undervalued by the teams that hold them.

Wonder which team the Redskins will be...

so I gather you're saying that the top picks will cost less due to a rookie salary cap of sorts, and based on that teams that usually trade back to acquire picks, will instead look to move up to nab top picks?

That could be the case, or maybe a better way of putting is that such a rookie wage scale might entice teams like NE to move up whereas before they deemed it too expensive.

If that's the case, it would be good for us, simply because we need early round picks, regardless of how much they're paid. If NE gave up its 17 & 28 for our 10 & a late round pick, I'd be ecstatic. Trading in either direction can be beneficial, as long as you don't get screwed. Thankfully, Allen has been very good at dealmaking, the McNabb trade might be the only exception.