Redskins Pre-Draft Visits and Private Workouts: 2011 Version

SkinzWin · 03-26-2011, 02:51 PM

I hear the Skins are very interested in Dirtbag59 out of Warpath University. Want him to play back-up water boy. Apparently he has the skill set required to keep cups and bottles filled. His scouting report says he has a high motor and is able to run out onto the field with those cute little 6 pack racks that hold gatorade bottles. You definitely need to add him to the list.

skinsfaninok · 03-26-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Nick Fairley visiting.

Nick Fairley to visit eight teams in the top ten | ProFootballTalk

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30gut · 03-26-2011, 11:58 PM

I haven't seen any site list Stanzi having a visit or workout with our Burgundy and Gold.

SmootSmack · 03-27-2011, 12:38 AM

They spoke extensively at the senior bowl. Are we not counting that?

SOUL-SKINS · 03-27-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by diehard

From what I've heard of him, I would have to agree. He's another one-year wonder. His stock is falling because of that and perhaps that makes him likely to be available at ten. I imagine he's still regarded a 1st round pick by most teams.

Guys please...........If Fairley is there at 10 we have to take him. It fills our biggest need.

skinster · 03-27-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

But where would he play in our 34 front?

DE.

On a side not, I find it odd that the only projected possible 10 pick we have talked to is Tyron Smith, and he really isn't supposed to go until the mid-late 1st (maybe we are hoping he slips into the early 2nd for a trade up?)

IrMitchell · 03-27-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

From what I've heard of him, I would have to agree. He's another one-year wonder. His stock is falling because of that and perhaps that makes him likely to be available at ten. I imagine he's still regarded a 1st round pick by most teams.

As much as I also agree that Fairley only had one successful year... it was a damn good one. Did you watch the Title game? Did you watch him dominate LSU and Alabama? Because I sure did and he was as big of a reason as Cam Newton was for those victories.

Just because a player has some red flags, doesn't mean he can't be a pro bowler for several years. There's gonna be risks no matter what, and if Nick Fairley is available at #10 and we don't take him... Then "the best player available theory" would mean absolutely nothing.

Even though I think when the Redskins drafted Trent Williams, it was clear that management doesn't follow that theory. Luckily for the Redskins, he turned out.. because that had bust written all over it.

IrMitchell · 03-27-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Ok, ok. I'm sold on Fairley. In hindsight, which prospects were rated higher than Trent Williams and why was "bust" written all over him? He was a great talent and at a premium skill position.

I love Trent, don't get me wrong.... But Russell Okung will be the best Tackle from that draft, he was last year and will continue to trend upwards each and every year. Not only did he show this as a rookie in the NFL.. but he showed it in college allowing only one sack in his draft year at OSU.

This athletic stuff is blown out of proportion, Jammal Brown was never athletic. The fourth pick last year should have been Okung, but Trent will suffice.

skinsfaninok · 03-27-2011, 05:42 PM

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skinsfaninok · 03-27-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Why is it believed that Okung had a better rookie season than Williams?

I don't see how thats true at all? Okung started 10 games compared to TW's 14. Just because Seattle made the playoffs doesn't mean Okung had a better year if thats what he means.

IrMitchell · 03-27-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't see how thats true at all? Okung started 10 games compared to TW's 14. Just because Seattle made the playoffs doesn't mean Okung had a better year if thats what he means.

If there were stats they would support what I said.

Playoffs had absolutely nothing to do with it, Trent wasn't great or anything this year.. let's be realistic about him. I watch a lot of football (we all do), and he really impressed me for Seattle.

SmootSmack · 03-28-2011, 07:00 PM

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SmootSmack · 03-28-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IrMitchell

If there were stats they would support what I said.

Playoffs had absolutely nothing to do with it, Trent wasn't great or anything this year.. let's be realistic about him. I watch a lot of football (we all do), and he really impressed me for Seattle.

TW faced some very stiff competition in his rookie year, week in and week out with little help and he pretty much held his own.

And he's serious about getting better

Trent Williams: Offseason training is about improvement, not quieting doubters - Redskins Journal

Mattyk · 03-28-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IrMitchell

If there were stats they would support what I said.

Playoffs had absolutely nothing to do with it, Trent wasn't great or anything this year.. let's be realistic about him. I watch a lot of football (we all do), and he really impressed me for Seattle.

The reality is TW had a solid rookie year. So did Okung, they're both going to be good pros. I think TW proved he's a better fit for this offense. More athletic and agile. Okung is probably the better pure pass blocker.

IrMitchell · 03-28-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

The reality is TW had a solid rookie year. So did Okung, they're both going to be good pros. I think TW proved he's a better fit for this offense. More athletic and agile. Okung is probably the better pure pass blocker.

I can partially agree with this.

The point I was trying to make is that Russell Okung was the better collegiate football player, the fact that Trent climbed the draft rankings towards the end of the draft season is more because people started to realize this whole "Mike Shanahan wants speed and will take Trent Williams". Not because people thought he would be the better left tackle.. Also worth noting, Trent played right tackle until he became a senior. So again, a lot of question marks about this player.

Clearly it's the wrong place to be discussing this argument and rightfully so.. I'll leave it at that.

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