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Old 04-11-2011, 11:37 PM   #16
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Re: Draft Sleepers

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What about some players that ended up being sleepers from the 2008 and 2009 draft, because after reading midseason and end of season rookie reports a lot of guys drafted after round 2 were simply relegated to backup duty if anything at all.

I still contend though that it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players.

Only one I can find for now is Steve Johnson - WR - Buffalo. A 2008 7th round pick from Kentucky (SEC Pride ya'll) that just posted a 1,073 10 TD season....IN BUFFALO!

Here's some more:

2008:
Anthony Collins - OT - Cincinati - 4th round pick out of Kansas
Carl Nicks - OG - Saints - 5th Round pick out of Nebraska.
Davone Bess - WR - Dolphins - UDFA out of Hawaii.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans - 3rd Round Pick out of West VA.

2009
Sebastian Vollmer - OT - Patriots - Second Round Pick out of Houston
DeAndre Levy - LB - Lions - 3rd Round pick out of Wisconsin.
Not sure what your point is. You're talking about just a few players. Plus, I mentioned Carl Nicks back in the winter of 2008. And 53Fan mentioned Vollmer. And I'm sure there's more

So I think "it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players" may be just a bit off base
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:32 AM   #17
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Davon House - New Mexico State ... Darrell Green 2.0 baby! But really, the guys got the instincts and the physical tools, he is a bit raw though. Also he was coached by Dwayne Walker, who was a pretty good Db coach here. And is endorsed by NM Redskin, booyah.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:09 AM   #18
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Re: Draft Sleepers

RB-
Noel Devine (KR/PR/Change of pace/3rd down)
Dion Lewis "
Da'Rel Scott
Mario Fanin

OL-
John Moffit (is he really a sleeper?)
(C) Ryan Bartholomew

WR-
Stephen Burton
Ricardo Lockette

DL-
Brandon Bair conversion DT to 3-4 DE
Sione Fua NT
Ian Williams NT
Chris Nield NT

LB-
Ugo Chinasa conversion DE to OLB
KJ Wright LB
Alex Woooojack (Baby!!)

CB-
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Jones
Kedrick Burney
Buster Skrine
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:14 AM   #19
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There a decent crop of 2nd tier RBs whom I would consider sleepers...look to last year, Blunt and Ivory were the top rookie RBs and neither were drafted.

This year is prime in the RBs department to pull a Shanny special, even though some of those "sleepers" look to be moving up on boards from what im hearing.
I agree with you completely about the mid-to-late round RB's. I consider most of them to be 3rd Down Back candidates (actually, more like change of pace RB candidates because I don't know if they can pass-protect). We should be able to get a good RB prospect late.

Two backs I like very much who may have moved up from "sleeper" to higher round status are Kendall Hunter (Ok St) and Delone Carter (Syr). I have been very impressed with Hunter every time I've seen him play but his lack of size (5-7, 200) may be an issue. I like everything about Delone Carter and I think he may have a good NFL career. He is bigger than Hunter at 5-9, 222 which should help him to endure the pounding a RB takes in the NFL. Jordan Todman (UConn) is another good prospect with NFL size who may have moved up since the Combine.

I'm trying to like DeMarco Murray as much as some others here do, but I just can't. He runs too high, he's always injured, and he just seems to lack toughness. Pass. Another player that I'm told to like but don't is Evan Royster. I've never seen him do anything on the football field that impressed me.

Two late round RB's who are blazing fast and can catch the ball are Da'Rel Scott (Md) and Nic Grigsby (Az). These guys are potential home run hitters and I think they'll get an opportunity with some team. I'd include Derrick Locke with this group if I didn't think that he's too slight for the NFL.
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:37 PM   #20
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Why not Pat Devlin? I can honestly see us taking him if we don't take a QB with our first two picks. If we don't take someone in the 5th, Pat Devlin looks like a good choice in the 6th. Some may even consider him with one of our 5th rounders.

In other words, I'll gladly lead the Pat Devlin bandwagon :P
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Re: Draft Sleepers

I think J Baldwin from Pitt will slip into the 3-4 round but will be a pretty good WR
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:20 PM   #22
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I think J Baldwin from Pitt will slip into the 3-4 round but will be a pretty good WR
Not to play semantics, but he's hardly a sleeper. His ability & issues have been well documented. He may fall that far but his talent is first round worthy. Wouldn't call him a sleeper, I'd call him a fairly calcuable risk.
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Why not Pat Devlin? I can honestly see us taking him if we don't take a QB with our first two picks. If we don't take someone in the 5th, Pat Devlin looks like a good choice in the 6th. Some may even consider him with one of our 5th rounders.

In other words, I'll gladly lead the Pat Devlin bandwagon :P
I've been waiting for someone to say this. Devlin has been getting no love.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:31 PM   #24
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Re: Draft Sleepers

He has what I love to see in a mid-late round QB. Pocket presence, pretty good mechanics, he's capable of making reads, and he's got a good enough arm.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:38 PM   #25
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Well if you want to talk QB sleepers, Mustain and Massoli are two guys who, based on talent alone, are probably 1st maybe 2nd round picks, but Mustain's never been able to hold on to a starting job and Massoli has a record with illegal substances. May be worth a flyer in the 7th for either of them
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:50 PM   #26
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Re: Draft Sleepers

I think some people need to revisit the def. for sleeper.
Demarco Murray etc.
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....jevan snead

That poor guy can't even make a AFL squad....lol Got cut by Tampa Bay Storm before the season started.



Dwayne Harris - WR (ECU) would be my sleeper.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:28 PM   #28
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Well if you want to talk QB sleepers, Mustain and Massoli are two guys who, based on talent alone, are probably 1st maybe 2nd round picks, but Mustain's never been able to hold on to a starting job and Massoli has a record with illegal substances. May be worth a flyer in the 7th for either of them
Massoli is a pretty smart kid too isn't he? Graduated already anyway. Didn't he also lie about some of his problems too?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:37 PM   #29
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Massoli is a pretty smart kid too isn't he? Graduated already anyway. Didn't he also lie about some of his problems too?
He's got a whole truck load of problems. To be clear, he's not someone I think the Skins should take a chance on in the 7th, but that some team probably would
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I think some people need to revisit the def. for sleeper.
Demarco Murray etc.
Do you mean Demarco Murray isn't a sleeper or that he is the definition of one?
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