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Old 04-25-2011, 10:54 AM   #16
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Re: Would you be ok with...

This is what I've been saying all along.

If we absolutely MUST take one, get one later than the 1st round.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:05 AM   #17
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This is what I've been saying all along.

If we absolutely MUST take one, get one later than the 1st round.
Agreed, we can trade down and grab a QB. Here's a nice article on Ponder by the folks from the NFP.

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Old 04-25-2011, 11:38 AM   #18
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Here's a question, where would this year's qb class rank if you combined this year and next year's classes? I agree that next year's class is much stronger and it would be worth trading down this year and adding more pieces and then getting one of the qbs next season that appear to have far more potential when it comes to being a true franchise qb.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:52 AM   #19
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We shouldn't draft a QB just because we need a QB. The concern should be value at the position. I don't see it at #10 nor do I see it at #41. No more Colt Brennams and Jordan Palmers, we may as well use the pick on a position player, or [players] with so many holes to fill.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:54 AM   #20
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Here's a question, where would this year's qb class rank if you combined this year and next year's classes? I agree that next year's class is much stronger and it would be worth trading down this year and adding more pieces and then getting one of the qbs next season that appear to have far more potential when it comes to being a true franchise qb.
Personally, I feel that getting a rookie QB now would be appropriate. I'm sure I'll catch flak for this, but last year Mike Shanahan was not in a rebuilding mode whatsoever. Sadly, it has taken the failure (more like a disaster) of the McNabb trade to finally get in this rebuilding mode. Right now the best situation for the team is for MS to keep the current mediocre QB (Grossman) and draft a QB to groom (something he should've done last year). We may be in for a rough year, but at least we would have a young QB to build around for the future.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:21 PM   #21
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I am fairly convinced that we will acquire Vince Young when it becomes possible. He is our starter next year.

But we need young QB blood. We need to draft a QB.

But we don't need to reach. Sometimes good QB value can be found later in the draft. So we should draft a QB some time after the first round.

For those calling for Luck, do you really want us to go 1-15, which is what it will take to be in a position to get Luck?
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:43 PM   #22
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I think we HAVE to draft a QB. We need soemone to develop and build an offense for the future. If we continue to wait until everything is perfect before plugging in a young guy (as alot of you suggest every draft and probably will next draft), we probably won't be in position to draft one as we will be a good team with later picks.

Get Jake Locker and get on with it.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:46 PM   #23
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Not taking a QB at all in this draft?

Research shows that 2nd round QBs have been mostly disappointments, so unless you get a top flight guy in the 1st round it's basically a waste to take a QB in later rounds.

Do you trust the likes of Grossman or Beck? Or picking up a stop gap veteran such as Hasselbeck?
Completely fine with it. The QB talent in this draft is pedestrian with high-bust potential at the top tier (Newton, Gabbert, Locker).

It don't think any of the rookie QBs are better than Beck right now and won't be for at least a year or two.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:09 PM   #24
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I'd take a QB outside of the first two picks unless there is a trade down. If we have 3 picks in the first three rounds one should be a QB. Otherwise, as Schneed said, trench guys at 1 and 2 and a late round QB (maybe even two).

Get the lines (and LB on defense) up to snuff THEN worry about the guy driving the machine.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:27 PM   #25
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Not me. I mean it really wouldn't surprise me if we didn't in the first two rounds. But we need a QB. So I hope next weekend doesn't pass without us taking a QB at some point in the draft
The Redskins need so much with so little to work with. They have a grand total of two substance picks, so barring a trade down for additional pick in rounds two or three, this draft could be a virtual wash. I'm in agreement with Casserley here, value after round four is hoping for that elusive diamond in the ruff.

If it is the Redskins intention to draft A QB [project] exactly where in this draft with limited picks do they draft a QB that could be counted on to develop into an NFL QB in a two to three year period of time? Drafting a guy just because he has QB attached to his name does not necessarily mean problem solved.

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Old 04-25-2011, 02:02 PM   #26
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I'm perfectly fine with not taking a QB at all in this draft. We have a long way to go in building this team, so I like the idea of building the foundation which, to me, is the defense and the OL. We can get our QB next year.

If we don't take a QB, I'd like to see the Skins trade down at least once but preferably twice to get more picks. Or, perhaps they could do a deal which gets us a second first round pick next year. That would give us some ammo to try to trade up for Andrew Luck.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:00 PM   #27
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I think the idea that we could trade up for Andrew Luck just needs to be forgotten right now. If a team is bad enough this coming year to earn the #1 overall pick (the pick it will take to get Andrew Luck) then that team is quite likely to need an answer at QB.

There's no way anybody trades out of that spot. It's just like Bradford with the Rams last year, they had offers on the table, but they saw him there and turned them all down.

The only way we get Andrew Luck next year is if we're the worst team in the NFL. That just won't happen.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:27 PM   #28
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Not taking a QB at all in this draft?

Research shows that 2nd round QBs have been mostly disappointments, so unless you get a top flight guy in the 1st round it's basically a waste to take a QB in later rounds.

Do you trust the likes of Grossman or Beck? Or picking up a stop gap veteran such as Hasselbeck?
Usually any other year I would avoid second round QB's like the plague. However this class seems different. Especially in regards to guys like Dalton and Ponder who I believe can be exceptions to the rule. Mallet and Kaepernick scare me but in regards to this draft I have an attitude akin to "if they picked them they must have seen something they can work with."

Grossman and Beck while certainly not as bad as Anderson, Skelton, and Hall down in Arizona certainly scare me as the only two options. It's not that I don't believe they can succeed but at the very least I would want someone with a little more upside. Weather that be a first or second round rookie or a free agent like Vince Young.

So while it's not the end of the world going with Grossman and Beck I would still be pretty nervous about the future of this organization. QB's traditionally take the longest to develop and even if they can hit the ground running they still need around 3 years until they're ready to take on the rigors of postseason play and actually be considered a contender. Lineman on the other hand if they're good enough take half a season to develop, while the later round picks can take 1 to 2 years.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:35 PM   #29
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What would absolutely not be ok is to give away future draft picks to move up
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I think the idea that we could trade up for Andrew Luck just needs to be forgotten right now. If a team is bad enough this coming year to earn the #1 overall pick (the pick it will take to get Andrew Luck) then that team is quite likely to need an answer at QB.

There's no way anybody trades out of that spot. It's just like Bradford with the Rams last year, they had offers on the table, but they saw him there and turned them all down.

The only way we get Andrew Luck next year is if we're the worst team in the NFL. That just won't happen.


Why won't it? We're still the worst team in our division and we're only better than a few teams.
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