2011 Draft Thread Round 1

[Swarley]

HEY that's my bandwagon!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

They still need someone to create a push against the interior, and it would be great if Haynesworth could be that someone but that hasn't been working for me.

Then again the Giants have killed teams with good, not great, interior D-lineman so it's certainly possible. Plus Rak and Kerri aren't finess guys. Both are capable of bull rushing people.

Haynesworth is not a NT, Shanahan should've realized this last year and we could have had an extra pick this year for Haynesworth and should've picked up Cody with that second rounder he gave up for McNabb.

[Kindoy]

Kellen Moore? :cheeky-sm

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

They still need someone to create a push against the interior, and it would be great if Haynesworth could be that someone but that hasn't been working for me.

Then again the Giants have killed teams with good, not great, interior D-lineman so it's certainly possible. Plus Rak and Kerri aren't finess guys. Both are capable of bull rushing people.

I only said "beginning" of the rebirth(renaissance means rebirth). The task is certainly not complete. Until we get an NT, we shall remain cupcakes against the run.

But by the sounds of it, this kid has "relentlessness" in his game. His measurables are very similar to Rak as well. Hopefully, his intangibles are just as good as, if not better than, Rak's.

We've drafted "linemen" in the first round three years in a row now. I hope our return on Kerrigan will be up to par with the other two.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

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So we pick up a high character guy in kerrigan and trade for a **** up in Vince Young? I just can't see that happening despite what SS predicts...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Haynesworth is not a NT, Shanahan should've realized this last year and we could have had an extra pick this year for Haynesworth and should've picked up Cody with that second rounder he gave up for McNabb.

I was talking more about 3-4 D-Line as a whole (NT and DE). Someone between Ryan and Orakpo to prevent QB's from stepping up in the pocket.

Still I like the thinking of Redskin management. Like "you know what NFC East? We might be the only team without a franchise/pro bowl/90+ QB, but we'll be damned if we continue to let your pretty boys sit back there untouched when we meet up."

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

So we pick up a high character guy in herrigan and trade for a **** up in Vince Young? I just can't see that happening despite what SS predicts...

Nah, Vince Young seems to be a Sergei Kostitsyn. He "bad character" is not chronic like TO's. He just needs to mesh with the "right" mentor.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Nah, Vince Young seems to be a Sergei Kostitsyn. He "bad character" is not chronic like TO's. He just needs to mesh with the "right" mentor.

I don't know, I still don't think it is the right move.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I was talking more about 3-4 D-Line as a whole (NT and DE). Someone between Ryan and Orakpo to prevent QB's from stepping up in the pocket.

Still I like the thinking of Redskin management. Like "you know what NFC East? We might be the only team without a franchise/pro bowl/90+ QB, but we'll be damned if we continue to let your pretty boys sit back there untouched when we meet up."

After 10 years of Cerratoian mismanagement and neglect of the lines, it's about damn time that the beauty and thrill of true QB smashing is reintroduced to the Redskins faithful.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Nah, Vince Young seems to be a Sergei Kostitsyn. He "bad character" is not chronic like TO's. He just needs to mesh with the "right" mentor.

Agreed. Young's a good person. Besides can't hurt to let Shanahan coach another guy named Young.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

I don't know, I still don't think it is the right move.

Maybe for us, it isn't, but I think he can still turn it around somehwere. At least he put in the effort to fix himself up, unlike a guy named JaMarcus.

[GTripp0012]

GTripp's Best Available, following day 1:

16. Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
20. Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia
22. Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
23. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
24. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
25. Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
26. Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
29. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
30. Rodney Hudson, G, Florida State
31. Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy

[Mattyk]

Some names SS is hearing for tomorrow: Hankerson, Paea, Wisniewski, Stanzi

Also he says: may keep the 41st and move down from 49

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Some names SS is hearing for tomorrow: Hankerson, Paea, Wisniewski, Stanzi

Also he says: may keep the 41st and move down from 49

Stanzi is interesting. In part because I think if you can get a trade down into the late 2nd early 3rd you could still get him. I know Kiper really likes him and at the least he's an accurate QB (at least this past year) with good mobility. Not the best arm though.

[SmootSmack]

Some thoughts from being at the draft tonight:

-Overall the fans are much more subdued than you'd expect

-If you hang out in the lobby, you have no idea what's going on. You don't hear anything that's happening inside

-Signal was horrible. My texts to Matty were arriving sometimes 20-30 minutes after I'd send them. So, so much for being the "embedded warpath reporter" on the ground

-To see players' moms and grandmothers (and other families) get excited was really cool

-I totally called Ponder to the Vikings in one of my mocks

-After the Niners passed on Quinn, the plan to move down was to get Quinn at 16, we didn't expect him to go to the Rams. We also didn't think Ponder would go to the Vikings

-Kerrigan is a solid pick, but man if he effs up he'll have to deal with chants of "Nannnncy...Nannnnncyyyy"

-No, I'm not Scott Van Pelt

-I never predicted Vince Young to the Redskins, I merely reported that we're seriously considering him...I predicted Alex Smith (which may be just as foolish)

-Names I heard most frequently mentioned for tomorrow (in no particular order): Stephen Paea, Stephen Wisniewski, Leonard Hankerson, Ricky Stanzi...which means we're taking Andy Dalton and Rodney Hudson