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Old 04-29-2011, 12:16 PM   #91
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Re: NFL Draft Day 2: Predictions

Best case:

41: Paea

49: Dalton

Alternatively, if Paea gone at 41:

41: Dalton;

49: J. Jenkins;

If Paea & Dalton gone:
41: T. Smith or R. Cobb (basically best WR the FO has on its board)

49: Jenkins

Essenatially, I think we need to come up with some beef in the middle of the DL. We desparately need someone who will stuff the middle. WR and QB's are a need, but we can make do. The D, however, needs to be retooled.
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Talking with Pats about a move up, but they're probably holding out for more than we're willing to offer.

If trade doesn't happen, and I don't think it will, expect them to go for inside line help at 41 (or 49) and use the other pick to move down and add picks.

Don't be surprised if we don't go QB in round 2
Greg McElroy, Pat Devlin, Scott Tolzien, Tyrod Taylor, Jerrod Johnson. All late round targets that fit the Redskin scheme and could interest us beyond the Stanzi line.
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Why do people keep thinking Paea's a NT, none of these draft guys say that he'd be good at NT, he's a 4-3 DT people.
Paea would be a solid NT or 3-4 DE in our scheme. He's listed at 303, which isn't the 320+ you like out of an NT, however he has a high motor, low center of gravity....plus 49 reps in Bench. His scounting reports say he doesn't get moved off the line. The only thing making him drop is the knee.
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Re: NFL Draft Day 2: Predictions

41 - Trade down
49 - Ellis, NT from Hampton

If 41 could become mid 2nd round add Casey Matthews and with the other pick add a CB and the defense could be top 10 again.
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Talking with Pats about a move up, but they're probably holding out for more than we're willing to offer.

If trade doesn't happen, and I don't think it will, expect them to go for inside line help at 41 (or 49) and use the other pick to move down and add picks.

Don't be surprised if we don't go QB in round 2
Can we please stop giving the Pats more draft picks, those f'ers already have two #1s for next season!
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Why do people keep thinking Paea's a NT, none of these draft guys say that he'd be good at NT, he's a 4-3 DT people.
His skill set sounds very much like prototypical NT.

Wide as a Coke machine and just as difficult to move, Paea (pronounced pie-uh) has developed into one of the nation's best run-stuffers. His development is staggering in the sense that he signed with Oregon State having only played three years of organized football. ... Paea is a bit of a one-trick pony. He isn't agile enough to put consistent pressure on the quarterback at the NFL level. His ability to tie up blocks in the middle will lead teams to look at him closely over the first 50 picks of the 2011 draft no matter what scheme they utilize.
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Run defense: Is quick enough to surprise his opponent with a burst through the gap, but will make his NFL millions due to the fact that he is a natural run plugger due to his short, squatty build and rare upper- and lower-body strength. Can be knocked off the ball when double-teamed, but flashes the ability to split them and is rarely pushed far before he's able to plant his legs in the ground and create a pile. Doesn't have the lateral agility and balance to beat runners to the sideline, but hustles in pursuit.

Tackling: Stays squared and low to knock down the ballcarrier near the line of scrimmage. Flashes explosive hitting ability, with a proven ability to knock the ball free. Tied the OSU record with four forced fumbles in 2009. Good upper-body strength to drag down ballcarriers as they attempt to go past him. Doesn't have the speed or change of direction to offer much in pursuit.

Stephen Paea, Oregon State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

No. He is not 350 pounds of load, but he is a 300 pounder and, from the description of his body type, I bet he could easily add another 20 -30 pounds.
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Talking with Pats about a move up, but they're probably holding out for more than we're willing to offer.

If trade doesn't happen, and I don't think it will, expect them to go for inside line help at 41 (or 49) and use the other pick to move down and add picks.

Don't be surprised if we don't go QB in round 2

I hope you are right, it be a wasted pick, IMO.
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No. He is not 350 pounds of load, but he is a 300 pounder and, from the description of his body type, I bet he could easily add another 20 -30 pounds.
49 reps at 225 don't hurt either
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Did the redskins even meet with Paea? I know they went to Jerrell Powe's pro day and they've met with Kenrick Ellis (who we should really go after the most between these guys I mentioned)
I'd rather have Ellis too, a true NT
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Agree. Paea might end up being the best NT in the whole draft. I hope we have him in our trick-or-treat bag tonight.
Wow, the draft as Halloween.

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SM: Okay, well heres a big armed QB with an alleged 10 cent head, even though his wonderlic score was above average. OH and look at this a scary 3-4 defense. Here's a nice big nose tackle for you

(Picture the Mom with a Minnesota/hockey mom accent).

Yeah this sounded funnier when I first thought of it.
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I just hope we can a NT and someone on the OL. That would be perfect.
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Don't see Paea as a 3-4 NT... more of a 4-3 one-gap guy.
Would be very surprised if the Redskins are looking at him.
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Re: NFL Draft Day 2: Predictions

Ellis looks like a Haynesworth 2.0 to me.

We need help in the middle and no one is standing out as an obvious choice. The ILB group also looks weak. If that's the case, OL, OL, OL.
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Don't see Paea as a 3-4 NT... more of a 4-3 one-gap guy.
Would be very surprised if the Redskins are looking at him.
yup...kinda feel the same way, too light. I was wonder if they do get him move him to Gholston's role and STILL look at a NT, maybe a Kendrick Ellis, Powe....I think that would be a super upgrade defensively. Paea, Ellis, Carriker up front. Kerrigan and Orakpo on the outside...wow I like that.
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Ellis looks like a Haynesworth 2.0 to me.

We need help in the middle and no one is standing out as an obvious choice. The ILB group also looks weak. If that's the case, OL, OL, OL.
A 4-3 DT, no we don't need one of those. We need a true NT, though Ellis has the frame from it and can be taught the position. I saw that he had to transfer from SC, anyone know what he did?
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