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Old 05-01-2011, 09:48 PM   #61
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Yeah whats up with the NEBRASKA love? I think we should have drafted Mallett and still do.
Mallett's character red-flags were obviously pretty serious. Serious enough that a top 10 talent fell into the 3rd round. So even if he wasn't an alleged coke-head, what is it about a 6'7" statue of a QB that fits Mike/Kyle Shanahan's offense?
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:51 PM   #62
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^ Matt Schaub fits KS offense and Rex isn't exactly mike Vick.
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:58 PM   #63
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^ Matt Schaub fits KS offense and Rex isn't exactly mike Vick.
Schaub and Rex both have pretty decent mobility. Mallett has stone legs.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:20 PM   #64
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Umm Jared Allen, Clay Matthews, Justin Smith are all white and are all damn good DE/LB's.. Clay may be the best OLB in football outside of Ware.

I think Kerrigan is a solid player but a guy that has limits due to his speed, he's not a great athlete either. I'm thinking a Kyle Vanden Bosh type guy
This is all AFTER they proved themselves. What were the views on these players right when they were drafted?

BTW, Vanden's Bosch's 40 time was a 4.76. If we're considering 40 times, Kerrigan is a better athlete than Vanden Bosch.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:20 PM   #65
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Schaub and Rex both have pretty decent mobility. Mallett has stone legs.
What is a cow without legs? Ground beef? What is a Mallett without Redskins? A cokehead that ain't in burgundy and gold baby!!!

I don't get why people wanted him so bad. He has such bad character and its obvious since so many teams passed up on him. He has zero mobility and is not a good fit for this system.

People just start spouting off they want QB's just for the sake of having a QB because we have a need. You've wasted a pick if you get a QB that doesn't fit your scheme, especially one with a coke background and a bunch of red flags.

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:27 PM   #66
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Mallett's character red-flags were obviously pretty serious. Serious enough that a top 10 talent fell into the 3rd round. So even if he wasn't an alleged coke-head, what is it about a 6'7" statue of a QB that fits Mike/Kyle Shanahan's offense?
Other than his arm, I don't see anything else that makes Mallett an attractive candidate to our team. I don't think we can deal with players with character problems and we have a mediocre line. It is obvious that Shanahan believes that we don't need to address our QB situation through the draft. I do hope he has a plan to deal with this situation.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:42 PM   #67
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Barnes, Hall, Otogwe, Landry, Orakpo, Fletcher, Riley, Kerrigan, Carriker, Bryant, Jenkins. I think that is a pretty solid defense. Need to build some LB depth and hopefully resign Buchannon. Neild will form a nice little rotation with Bryant.

Hankerson, Armstrong, Williams, Lichtensteiger, Cook, Hurt, Capers, Cooley, Torrain, Sellers, Beck/Grossman. Let the young guys play on the O-line and see who we can keep going into the following seasons. I really hope Malcom Kelly can play this year, i still think he is going to turn out being a good asset. And i think the guys we drafted are going to be great slot receivers.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:21 AM   #68
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I'm not concerned we didn't draft more than one OL. We have youth at the OL position.

I'm still concerned about our O-line... I trust Shanny, but is Rabach still our starting center? He is turning 34 this season. Or is it Licht/Will Montgomery? Can Cook ever break the active roster? And Jamaal Brown - he's a free agent and probably wants a left tackle contract/money. I hope he stays, but if he leaves we're really screwed.

Just saying - our O-line has moving parts as always, and seems as unstable as usual. Would've like to see a few O-line drafted every year.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:27 AM   #69
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We never should have let the great Rich Bartel go. Or your boy Chase, for that matter. Maybe we'll get someone like Devlin once FA starts.

Or Jimmy Clausen...
Don't throw in the towel yet on Clausen, he was in a pretty bad situation last year. He's undervalued now and could likely be brought in for a late round pick in 2012 (or maybe AH...j/k)I'd be happy to see Clausen in B & G with a year to sit behind Grossman/Beck.
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Mallett's character red-flags were obviously pretty serious. Serious enough that a top 10 talent fell into the 3rd round. So even if he wasn't an alleged coke-head, what is it about a 6'7" statue of a QB that fits Mike/Kyle Shanahan's offense?
There must have been some pretty BAD red flags. Someone on one of the Networks was talking about how coaches would send him to the board and try to tire him out and they just couldn't do it. Apparently Mallet loves football as much as he allegedly loves to party.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:42 AM   #71
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I give our overall draft a B.

Trading down for extra picks - A+

Kerrigan - I'm warming to the pick because of the strength of our front 4 pass rush in nickel/dime situations. I would've went with Cam Jordan though. B

Jenkins instead of Paea - D

Hankerson in the 3rd - A

Helu in the 4th instead of Ballard - C-

Gomes instead of an interior OL that fits our scheme like Vandervelde, or a versatile G/T like Demarcus Love. - D

Royster - C
Robinson - B
Thompson - B
Hurt - B
White - C
Neild - B+
Niles Paul - B
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:23 AM   #72
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Who knows how truthful Shanahan is being. And VY is mobile and has a very strong arm, he would fit in just fine
Physically he would fit fine. From a mental and emotional standpoint, there lies the huge problems.
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:07 AM   #73
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I'm still concerned about our O-line... I trust Shanny, but is Rabach still our starting center? He is turning 34 this season. Or is it Licht/Will Montgomery? Can Cook ever break the active roster? And Jamaal Brown - he's a free agent and probably wants a left tackle contract/money. I hope he stays, but if he leaves we're really screwed.

Just saying - our O-line has moving parts as always, and seems as unstable as usual. Would've like to see a few O-line drafted every year.
Well, let me clarify. Do I know if guys like Lichtensteiger, Cook, Capers, even Trent Williams will become the answer(s) along the OL?

No, but at least we have youth to work with and develop along the line. We don't have that at QB
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First off, the FO did a great job in acquiring picks and I loved the philosophy. I think the last 4 picks were arguable the best at a value standpoint outside of Hankerson. I didnt like the WR and CB/S picks from Nebraska...I think much much better picks out there at that point.

I think this draft was the most surprising and intriguing not only from the Skins viewpoint which it certainly was, but in general leaguewide. Its because of the lockout and no free agency...but wow, very interesting. Alot of stuff just didnt make sense ie all those 3rd and 4th round QB going in the 1st and 2nd. The second round was just insane to me...a ton of effing reaches by alot of teams.

2 surprises from the Skins:
1. No QB taken (which I thought was brillant)
2. No prominent NT or ILB picks. Ive mention NT perspective in a couple threads, but think for a second about ILB...Rocky is NOT coming back and London is still effective, but is getting up there. Is this a free agency fill? I tend to think not, much more other needs. So are we going with Riley, Henson or One Man Gang next to London? I think(hope) so, but Id woulda thought a middle round pick woulda been spent there to add another piece for competition.

I think the grade is a B, kudos to the FO
I think they're high on Riley and Blades has been waiting around for a while. I'd prefer those two and let Fletch move on.
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