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Old 11-07-2011, 02:38 PM   #226
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I'm going to champion my new realistic sleeper prospect

Kirk Cousins
6'3, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Michigan State

Kirk Cousins Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Michigan State Spartans - ESPN
But he's not an SEC QB?! [/sarcasm]

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Old 11-07-2011, 02:45 PM   #227
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But he's not an SEC QB?! [/sarcasm]

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Thats true. If he done played in the SEC he would have like -47 TD passes by now.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:43 PM   #228
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Re: 2012 QB Class

Here is a pretty good site with a lot of mock drafts.

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Old 11-07-2011, 03:48 PM   #229
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Here is a pretty good site with a lot of mock drafts.

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Here is another mock draft...

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Here is another mock draft...

WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Mock Draft
I would be very happy with that result.
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Re: 2012 QB Class

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I'm going to champion my new realistic sleeper prospect

Kirk Cousins
6'3, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Michigan State

Kirk Cousins Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Michigan State Spartans - ESPN

First word: Cousins joins a long list of promising quarterback prospects and is a sleeper pick of many different evaluators. The fact that he has played against good Big 10 competition and has experience undercenter makes him an attractive prospect. He has an opportunity to really improve his stock with a solid season.

There is a lot to like about Cousins from his good arm strength to his on field leadership. The ball jumps out of his hand and arrives to his target with zip. There is no doubt that he can make all the necessary NFL throws. His ball placement and accuracy is good on all levels. He can read a defense and is able to locate secondary targets. Cousins has good anticipation which allows him to avoid turnovers and batted balls.

While Cousins has a lot of positives there are still some significant concerns. His technique is less than ideal which impacts the delivery of the football. Cousins doesn't step into his throws often throwing off of his back foot resulting in less power. He can get away with this in college but in the NFL with tighter passing windows he could struggle to complete passes. Cousins also doesn't set his body and feet towards his target impacting his accuracy. While he is accurate improved footwork will only make him better.

Overall, Cousins has enough talent and potential to warrant the attention he is receiving. He needs a productive season while leading Michigan State to a few more wins. Improving his technique and footwork will only help his draft stock.

Bold statement: Kirk Cousins will be a 2nd round pick in 2012

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Cousins is a decent athlete with the ability to escape the rush

Michigan State has a pro style offense that likes to feature play action

His experience and success in the Michigan State offense is a positive

He possesses a strong arm generating good zip on passes to all levels

Cousins keeps his eyes down the field when faced with pressure

As he drops back he keeps the ball above his breast plate avoiding wasted motions

He has a quick release that allows him to get the ball out on time

His accuracy is good on all levels as he leads his targets and also has the touch to drop in a bucket pass
The ball jumps out of his hands and arrives to his target on a line

He is able to go through his progressions and find the open man and secondary targets

Cousins needs to improve his technique as he often throws off his back foot and doesn't align his feet and body towards the target

He struggles to get rid of the football as he holds the ball to long and often takes sacks

Cousins has a tendency to force the ball when faced with pressure resulting in turnovers
Huge State fan... Um, Don't let Cousins fool you.. He leaves you wanting more every game.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:00 PM   #232
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Tannenhill looks like a classic elder Shanahan QB. Only problem I have is his release is a little sloppy and the offense has to many curls and screens for my taste.


And of course it took Ryan less then 2 minutes to do what Alabama couldn't do in 60 plus. Score a TD against LSU
Yeah, he's got some nice tools for sure. I just have a feeling he'll go too early in the second for us.
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The awesome thing about walter football they update every week based on team results.
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Mock drafts are fun but I dont remember seeing even one mock last year that had us taking Kerrigan.
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Mock drafts are fun but I dont remember seeing even one mock last year that had us taking Kerrigan.
That's 'cause you weren't here last year
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Yeah, he's got some nice tools for sure. I just have a feeling he'll go too early in the second for us.
We may pick pretty early in the second round.
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That's 'cause you weren't here last year
In April we will find out how good the info is here. I am hoping we have a choice at at east 2 of the big 4(Luck, Jones, Barkley and RG3) Qbs when we draft.
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Kellen Moore's first grade from Scouts Inc

1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL

Kellen Moore: Boise State
Grade 47 (6th Round Grade)
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Late Rounds
ROUND EQUIVALENT
These are players that flash some upside but certainly do not have the full package in terms of NFL talent. Often times, these are underdeveloped prospects that need extra time and coaching in order to compete for a roster spot in the NFL. NFL teams are looking for 'diamonds in the rough' with this type of prospect. He will usually rate in the bottom third of players at his position and will be considered a late round draft choice or un-drafted free agent.

OVERALL FOOTBALL TRAITS
Production 1 - "2007: Redshirt. 2008: (14/14)  40528169.43,5022510 2009: (13/13)  43227764.13,536393 2010: (13/13)  38327371.33,845356 "
Height-Weight-Speed 5 Vastly undersized in terms of overall measureables for the position. Top-end speed is average.

Durability - 3 -"Durability has not been an issue throughout career (2008-'10). However, lack of size particularly bulk brings up concerns about his ability to withstand a 16 game regular season in the NFL. "

Intangibles -1 - "A football junky. Intelligent individual and a well spoken representative of the program. Possesses a high football I.Q. Has developed into the unquestioned leader of the team. Holds a 38-2 record as a starter throughout career (2008-'10). Thrives under pressure and wants the ball in his hand late in the fourth quarter with the game on the line. In the 2010 opener down four points with 1:47 left in the game against Virginia Tech, he completed four of five throws taking the team 56 yards for game winning touchdown in just 45 seconds. Graduated in May 2011 with bachelor's degree in communications and is currently pursuing agraduate degree. "

QUARTERBACK SPECIFIC TRAITS
Mental Makeup - 1- "A cerebral QB that does an efficient job of conducting a pro-style offense. Does a great job of getting pre/post snap reads. Diagnoses coverages quickly and has very good anticipation and timing with throws. A sound decision maker who can get through progressions and rarely forces throws into coverage. Understands the value of ball security and willing to take check downs. Holds a 99-19 TD/INT ratio through first three seasons. Arguably the most poised, efficient and effective QBs in all of football running the two-minute drill with the game on the line. "

Accuracy - 3 - "Throws a catchable ball. Very accurate with short-throws and rarely forces targets to adjust to the ball. Also displays excellent touch to drop the ball in the bucket with fade/go routes. Can change ball speeds and projection with intermediate crossing passes. Flashes ability to make accurate throw off of back foot. However, too often falls away with throws which can lead to him missing the mark especially high. Accuracy can also dip when having to drive the ball in tight window down field. "

Release/Arm Strength - 4 - "Possesses a bit of release. Lower release point combined with lack of height brings up concerns for batted down balls. To his credit, does an excellent job of changing release points when need be. Arm strength is average at best. Will have issues driving the ball down field and ball can hang in the air with deeper out routes. Bottom line will have to rely on above-average anticipation and timing to be successful at the next level."

Pocket Mobility - 2 "Lacks speed and elusiveness to be a running threat. However, is quick and has great poise in the pocket. Naturally feels the rush and does a great job of maneuvering to buy time while keeping eyes down field. While he lacks height he does a nice job of finding throwing lanes to deliver throw. Can buy break contain and extend play outside of the pocket if need be. Needs to do a better job of keeping two hands on the ball to protect the ball inside the pocket. "
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Just me, I'd pass on Kellen Moore
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