2012 QB Class

skins89moss · 10-22-2011, 08:41 AM

The bottom line is if Rex or Beck dont play well this season then we are going to struggle for the next few years. Even if we draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd rd he will be a rookie and rookies dont fair well their 1st year in the league. You do get exceptions to this like Joe Flaco and Matt Ryan but thats far and few in between. I hope Beck can step up and play well enough that the rookie we do draft for the future won't have to play for a few years. Can Beck hold down the job or even be a NFL stater for us. I guess Sunday will see how he starts his on the job training.

Landry44 · 10-22-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Why not Landry Jones?

Because he obviously don't know anything about football. Landry Jones is the second best qb in this draft.

Landry44 · 10-22-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Russell Wilson, 5th year senior and transfer from NC State. From my hometown of Richmond. Went to Collegiate (a private school). ESPN had a really good show about him. He is playing really well for the Badgers this year.

ESPN's 'Depth Chart' offers inside look at Russell Wilson, Wisconsin

The man only 5'11. He's way to small to play qb in this league.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2011, 01:29 PM

Tell that to Mr. Brees

musicmaster45 · 10-22-2011, 01:36 PM

Yea that is the big thing about him. The scouts are reminded of Brees for his brain and his skills and motion

Chico23231 · 10-22-2011, 04:40 PM

I think we should stack QB in this year draft like we stacked WR in last years

Mechanix544 · 10-22-2011, 04:43 PM

Matt Barkley shud be the qb we draft next year. I hope to god we get him.

Landry44 · 10-22-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Tell that to Mr. Brees

I hate to knock a guy who I view as a talented player who shows up on game day. However, I have to honest and point out the obvious. Outside of Drew Brees how many sub 6 ft qbs do you see starting in the nfl? This kid has a good arm, great accuracy, and great mobility. However, he's undersized for the position he's playing. I'm not saying he should be drafted. What saying is that he's not a first or second rounder. Also Russel Wilson is not as good as Drew Brees.

Landry44 · 10-22-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Matt Barkley shud be the qb we draft next year. I hope to god we get him.

There is a lot to like about Matt Barkley, but out of all the qbs in this draft I think he's the most overrated. I'm going to give you my reasons why I like him and dislike him. He throws beautiful passes and he can do it on a consistent basis. He has a big arm and a quick release. He has good mobility. What I dislike about him is a footwork. He tends to throw the ball off his back foot a lot. I think that can be fixed with good coaching which believe we have. The problem I have with him is that he doesn't preform well when he's under pressure. Now do I believe he's a franchise qb? I really do believe he is. Do I think we should draft him if given the opportunity? Yes we definitely should. I just think that qbs like Nick Foles and RG3 are just as good.

SkinzWin · 10-22-2011, 10:36 PM

Not to highjack the thread but I just wanted to point out this shirt my wife just bought. I didn't want to start a thread about the 2034 draft quite yet, but that's when he will be available, unless he goes as a junior. But I don't want to get my hopes too high at this point....

You may proceed talking about Matt Barkley's over-hypeness.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-22-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

There is a lot to like about Matt Barkley, but out of all the qbs in this draft I think he's the most overrated. I'm going to give you my reasons why I like him and dislike him. He throws beautiful passes and he can do it on a consistent basis. He has a big arm and a quick release. He has good mobility. What I dislike about him is a footwork. He tends to throw the ball off his back foot a lot. I think that can be fixed with good coaching which believe we have. The problem I have with him is that he doesn't preform well when he's under pressure. Now do I believe he's a franchise qb? I really do believe he is. Do I think we should draft him if given the opportunity? Yes we definitely should. I just think that qbs like Nick Foles and RG3 are just as good.

Been watching ND vs. USC. Not impressed w/Barkley. Lots of bubble screens, speed outs and other quick passes under 10 yds that inflate numbers. At least three throws that weren't very tight at all (Kilmer-esque) with no pressure. Mobility is OK at NCAA, he'll get killed outside the pocket in the NFL. I think Barkley would benefit from another year in the NCAA. He will take some time to be successful at the next level. I don't see his upside as high as Bradford's. I wouldn't take him in this draft.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-22-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Not to highjack the thread but I just wanted to point out this shirt my wife just bought. I didn't want to start a thread about the 2034 draft quite yet, but that's when he will be available, unless he goes as a junior. But I don't want to get my hopes too high at this point....

Congrats!! We'll be expecting SB in 2035 for sure.

53Fan · 10-22-2011, 10:56 PM

Congratulations SkinzWin!

budw38 · 10-23-2011, 06:49 AM

Congrads ... 2034 starts a run on Lombardi trophy's and Redskins Park !!
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Big C · 10-23-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

Because he obviously don't know anything about football. Landry Jones is the second best qb in this draft.

yeah, since every highly rated qb prospect has been a success in the nfl...

just because he is the "second best qb in the draft" doesn't mean he will be a good nfl player. i said that im not sold on him being a good pro, thats a gut feeling from what i've seen from him. i guess that means i "don't know anything about football" since i dont agree with you or some gurus though.

anyways, i liked the little bit i saw from barkley last night. he was going through progressions and looked accurate, and even showed a little mobility.

10-22-2011, 08:41 AM	#46
skins89moss Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,956	Re: 2012 QB Class The bottom line is if Rex or Beck dont play well this season then we are going to struggle for the next few years. Even if we draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd rd he will be a rookie and rookies dont fair well their 1st year in the league. You do get exceptions to this like Joe Flaco and Matt Ryan but thats far and few in between. I hope Beck can step up and play well enough that the rookie we do draft for the future won't have to play for a few years. Can Beck hold down the job or even be a NFL stater for us. I guess Sunday will see how he starts his on the job training. __________________ RGIII the franchise QB we have been waiting for since Mark Rypien leads us to a SuperBowl win over the Bills. Redskins Fan Since 1972

10-22-2011, 01:29 PM	#49
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,225	Tell that to Mr. Brees __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-22-2011, 01:36 PM	#50
musicmaster45 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 373	Re: 2012 QB Class Yea that is the big thing about him. The scouts are reminded of Brees for his brain and his skills and motion __________________ Shanahann loves the colleges i do...... Purdue and Nebraska FTW!!!! Last edited by musicmaster45; 10-22-2011 at 01:40 PM.

10-22-2011, 04:40 PM	#51
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,911	Re: 2012 QB Class I think we should stack QB in this year draft like we stacked WR in last years __________________ RG3 = Best QB in the East

10-22-2011, 04:43 PM	#52
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,048	Re: 2012 QB Class Matt Barkley shud be the qb we draft next year. I hope to god we get him. __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

10-22-2011, 10:36 PM	#55
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,563	Re: 2012 QB Class Not to highjack the thread but I just wanted to point out this shirt my wife just bought. I didn't want to start a thread about the 2034 draft quite yet, but that's when he will be available, unless he goes as a junior. But I don't want to get my hopes too high at this point.... You may proceed talking about Matt Barkley's over-hypeness. __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Draft winners, not stars. Hail to the Redskins Hail victory Braves on the warpath Block for RG3

10-22-2011, 10:56 PM	#58
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,360	Re: 2012 QB Class Congratulations SkinzWin! __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

10-23-2011, 06:49 AM	#59
budw38 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,134	Re: 2012 QB Class Congrads ... 2034 starts a run on Lombardi trophy's and Redskins Park !! '

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