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Old 11-01-2011, 04:38 PM   #106
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:41 PM   #107
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Gotcha. Here is, maybe, a consideration for you. Rather than question a person's entire college FB knowledge in a post, discuss it. Here is the original post from Big C:

to which you said (in response to Lotus - not displayed here) :

But yet in your statement to GMScud, you are in agreement with BigC's second statement which is a well worded brief description of why he likes RGIII.



So if you agree with BigC's overall point that RGIII fits better here, then maybe Big C has some reasonable CFB knowledge, and if you agree LJ is the 2nd best QB in the draft, then maybe GMScud has reasonable CFB knowledge, and you simply disagree with parts of each of their assessments.
Again, the point is rather than attacking knowledgeable fans of CFB, why not simply discuss the areas you disagree?

No one here is psychic, and most of us are simply having discussions about what we see based on our history and background knowledge, and we have the discussions because we all have a common interest in seeing the Redskins be the best team in the league year in and year out.
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I agree. The last and only Black QB to win a super bowl...Doug Williams.
Considering the number of black QB's to white QB's over the years....is that surprising?
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I agree. The last and only Black QB to win a super bowl...Doug Williams.
Uh, I think Dirtbag was being sarcastic.

There's a negative word for judging QB's based on skin color and that word begins with an "r."
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Yeah, Realistic.


2012 NFL draft -- Kellen Moore, Case Keenum face big questions - ESPN

can someone whose an insider copy and paste this article for me.
The "r" word we were looking for was "racist."
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Hold on! Did he just say judging a QB by the color of their skin is realistic?
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:41 PM   #112
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You know, when it's late and you only read the last page of posts you often wonder ... Has everyone really and truly lost their minds? Color of skin and QB'ing? Didn't James Harris put this to bed ages ago?!
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Hold on! Did he just say judging a QB by the color of their skin is realistic?
Yes he did.
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Hold on! Did he just say judging a QB by the color of their skin is realistic?
Yes. Yes he did.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:53 PM   #116
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Outstanding job CRed!

We should spend less time around here accusing others of ignorance and more time understanding the opinions of others, even if they differ from ours.
Nope. I'd much rather call everyone else idiots and cling to my title of smartest person in the world.
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Stupid argument considering there are presently only 3 non-white QBs starting in the NFL.
The odds are stacked against seeing an African American QB win a SB in the near future.
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I feel like you all are pulling some joke. This isn't a racist claim, this is realistic. How many Black QB's have won a super bowl? 1! There has been 45 super bowls and out of those 1 super bowl has been won by an african american QB. Just right there I'll take my chances on a white QB. Black QB's rely on either one of two things (or both); their athleticism and their arm. White QB's rely on many things, some of which are their football IQ. Mike Vick relies on his legs and his strong arm. Cam Newton = legs and arm. McNabb = arm (used to be legs too). Jason Campbell = arm and legs. Tavaris Jackson = arm, legs. Randall Cunningham = arm and legs. Warren Moon = arm.

Now lets just look at the last 3 super bowl winning QB's.
Rodgers = arm, legs, accuracy, great at changing play calls, great football IQ
Brees= accurate, great at changing play calls, great football IQ, good pocket awareness
Roethlisberger = tough, relies on his feet to extend plays, good football IQ, clutch.

It's just like in the NBA. Why is it American white players are always shoved down late in the draft or just not drafted at all? Take Jimmer Fredette. He was the CBBall player of the year last year and what was it that talent evaluators said "He's too slow for the NBA...He's not that aggressive nor a good defender...he's not tall enough. He can only shoot threes" translation. He's not black. And why would he be drafted high? The NBA is over 90% african american players. Their taller more athletic players. Their explosive and can run and jump. Not saying white people can't do that, but its just not as likely to find a white american player that can do all that when theirs already so many good african american players that can do that for that sport.


Until another African American QB wins the Super Bowl, I'm going to lean towards us getting a white QB until then. And RGIII isn't coming out this year according to reports.
Oh, your claim most definitely is racist. Judging the abilities of others by the color of their skin is racism.

C'mon man.
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In the future there will be more and more black qb's because more young black athletes will want to play that position now. They have more black qb's to idolize. Once that happens, there will be plenty of Super bowl winning black qb's, I promise. I just hope Mike Vicks not the second. We can't play the game like it was in the past, we gotta evolve. Until recently I was old school. Defense and a running game and all you need is a decent qb having a decent year and a super bowl is attainable. But now that I think of it, since Trent Dilfer won it, every team that wins has a franchise stud QB. Its a qb driven league. I think the worst one in that time was Eli Manning and he's pretty damn good. The point is we need a QB, first pick and someone to throw to second pick.
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I feel like you all are pulling some joke. This isn't a racist claim, this is realistic. How many Black QB's have won a super bowl? 1! There has been 45 super bowls and out of those 1 super bowl has been won by an african american QB. Just right there I'll take my chances on a white QB. Black QB's rely on either one of two things (or both); their athleticism and their arm. White QB's rely on many things, some of which are their football IQ. Mike Vick relies on his legs and his strong arm. Cam Newton = legs and arm. McNabb = arm (used to be legs too). Jason Campbell = arm and legs. Tavaris Jackson = arm, legs. Randall Cunningham = arm and legs. Warren Moon = arm.

Now lets just look at the last 3 super bowl winning QB's.
Rodgers = arm, legs, accuracy, great at changing play calls, great football IQ
Brees= accurate, great at changing play calls, great football IQ, good pocket awareness
Roethlisberger = tough, relies on his feet to extend plays, good football IQ, clutch.

It's just like in the NBA. Why is it American white players are always shoved down late in the draft or just not drafted at all? Take Jimmer Fredette. He was the CBBall player of the year last year and what was it that talent evaluators said "He's too slow for the NBA...He's not that aggressive nor a good defender...he's not tall enough. He can only shoot threes" translation. He's not black. And why would he be drafted high? The NBA is over 90% african american players. Their taller more athletic players. Their explosive and can run and jump. Not saying white people can't do that, but its just not as likely to find a white american player that can do all that when theirs already so many good african american players that can do that for that sport.


Until another African American QB wins the Super Bowl, I'm going to lean towards us getting a white QB until then. And RGIII isn't coming out this year according to reports.
Just stop dude. You've basically said that none of the black QBs have accuracy, pocket awareness, and other traits of a solid football IQ. That they're just athletes running around. If you don't realize that guys like Vick and Newton are successful because they are football smart and more than just athletes then you don't belong on this board.
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