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Old 10-31-2011, 11:13 AM   #61
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:20 AM   #62
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Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

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Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

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LOL...nice conspiracy theory.
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It's amazing how drafting a QB and hitting on the right one will make all those 'holes' disappear...



Think about it for a second. Our defense except maybe our secondary, isn't that bad. They keep us in games. It's our offense that doesn't produce. If you have the right QB, that QB will get the ball out fast and make the right protections. As awful as our OL played today giving up 9 sacks, it's really not that bad of an OL, IF you have the right QB behind it. Our OL IMO is better than the Colts, Cowboys, Bills, Eagles, Lions, Steelers, even the patriots. It's about whose back their to get the ball out quickly, eat up the clock (for your defense to rest), slide the protection, step up in the pocket and have awareness. No defense, no matter how good it is, is going to be motivated to go out on the field and stop a team that is up 23-0, when their Offense isn't producing. None!
I completely understand how important the qb position is to any team. A great young qb can put us in contention for 10 years. But when draft a guy high and he comes in and get hammered his first and second year his skills are irrelevant. Just take a good look at Sam Bradford. Last year he was pretty good. This year you're not seeing the same player because he's supporting cast isn't all that good outside of Jackson. It doesn't matter if he's the right guy if you don't have the right people around him he will look bad. When I look at this team before the injuries we have wholes on the QB, C, LG, RG, RT, WR, NT, ILB, and CB. This team is lacking in all of those areas. One guy will not change that. Trading away future first round picks is never a good idea because you never know what you might need in the future. There are plenty of guys at the qb position in this draft that will be great players in this league. I see no reason to over compensate for a guy where you have other guys that can also get the job done.
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Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.
There is NO WAY the colts are losing on purpose for a QB that many (including phil simms) say he doesn't have the arm to be a special QB in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, I think Luck will be great some day, but no way did the colts brass call the players to throw the season before the season even started. It just goes to show you that Manning truely is the MVP of this league. With him,perennial playoff bound team, without him, worst team in football.
The part about "making some sucker organization pay a kings ransom for Manning" is totally true, and can you smell Snyder's money warming up? Guess who could be the "sucker"? Although, I would still take him, but only for a jester's ransom! he's Peyton Manning after all and has good years left in him if he can return to health, but his days are sadly numbered. Any time you can get the best QB ever to walk on your team, it's a good decision, especially one with a football IQ as sky high as his is! Even if you don't agree he's the best ever, you can't argue he's a top 10...well I suppose you could argue it, but that would be foolish.

He won't leave Indy though, what better scenario for the Colts is getting Luck to simmer on the bench for 2 years and learn all Peyton knows, then take over like Rogers did in Green Bay. Rogers is amazing because he got to watch one of the all time greats and learn from him...if the Colts were smart, they would take Luck and let him develop on the bench.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:58 PM   #66
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Time for a rant.

The Colts should be investigated! How can a team suck for Luck that hard and not be trying to lose? They knew that their season was lost after Peyton Manning was injured, so now it looks like they may be positioning themselves to go from 14 years with Manning at QB to a decade or more with Andrew Luck at QB. I can't hate them enough!

P.S. On top of that, the Colts will probably make some sucker organization pay a king's ransom for Manning!

End of rant.
I've went in depth about it on another thread, but don't worry. Peyton is not coming back. He has played his last down in the NFL.

Let's say hypothetically he tries to comes back, is somehow able to pass a team physical, and is going to play again. The colts are either going to ask him to take a lower salary now that Andrew Luck is on the team (again, hypothetically!!), and they tell him that their plan is for Peyton to play one more year and tutor Luck.

If Peyton refuses, then the Colts will tell him that they will try and trade him and his contract to someone else and wish him well. Keep in mind, he will not be allowed to work out with the team while this is going on.

#2 Peyton does come back, agree to a lower salary, and basically puts his quality of life on the line to play one more season with muscle spasms in his back, and lingering nerve damage that has cut the strength of his throwing arm in half, leaving him fragile to take a huge hit.

I like Peyton and I hope he does not do this to his body for what may not even be one more full season. He is a smart guy and he is made to be in the coaches box or on the sideline as an offensive coordinator. I just couldn't fathom Manning coming back at 50% of what he was, almost a shell of a QB really....
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:43 PM   #67
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Manning will be back as long as he's cleared medically

Peyton Manning wants to play but not sure he'll be cleared
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:41 PM   #68
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There are some pretty good qbs in the 2012 draft other than Luck.
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:07 PM   #69
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I wouldn't give up anything for Andrew Luck when you have all these other great options at qb. It's no brainer if we are in position to draft him we take him. However, I see no good reason to trade away multiple high picks for this guy when it's other great qbs in this draft that can get the job done.
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I'm not going to lie. I Wouldn't be surprising to me at all, if Barkley And/Or Griffin ended up being better than Luck. I feel like I'm going to be seeing the '04 draft all over again.


(The real question/hope is that Both Barkley and Griffin declare, because I wouldn't be surprised if Barkley stayed.)
All 3 will be great, the system they play in and team talent will dictate their greatness just like Brady vs Manning vs Rodgers.
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:20 PM   #71
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I'm not going to lie. I Wouldn't be surprising to me at all, if Barkley And/Or Griffin ended up being better than Luck. I feel like I'm going to be seeing the '04 draft all over again.


(The real question/hope is that Both Barkley and Griffin declare, because I wouldn't be surprised if Barkley stayed.)
Andrew Luck is going to be a great qb in this league, but so is Barkley and Griffin. When people start saying that we should trade away mulitple 1st rounders, second rounders, and possibly high profile players for this guy I have to take issue with that. Whichever one of these qbs we draft we need to some talent around them. No one does it by themselves in this league. The reason some guys like Ryan Leaf and David Carr weren't successful in this league is because they got hammered their first couple of seasons which in result shatter their confidence. We just don't need a good qb. We also need a good draft. I say stay where we are and draft the best qb available. If we pick 2nd or 3rd we can get a franchise guy.

I don't thin Barkley or Griffin have anything to come back to college for. Barley have more to lose than gain by coming back. He's going to be the second player drafted. RG3 if he finishes out his last two games on a high note might have put himself in the top ten of this draft. He's been injured two of his four seasons at Baylor. He's going to get his masters, but he doesn't have to stay in college to do so. There is no doubt that both of them will declare for next Aprils draft.
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Luck is a good QB, but the hype on him is overkill. I thought Bradford got overkill last year. Luck's only quality opponents this season(USC, Oregon) made him look above average. If he played in the SEC or Big 10 even, he would get exposed even more. Get RG III, Keenum, or Moore. RG III has turned a Big 12 doormat into a real team. IF AZ was a decent team, I would say take a shot at Nick Foles, but AZ sucks. Too many options at QB to lock onto Luck.
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Luck is a good QB, but the hype on him is overkill. I thought Bradford got overkill last year. Luck's only quality opponents this season(USC, Oregon) made him look above average. If he played in the SEC or Big 10 even, he would get exposed even more. Get RG III, Keenum, or Moore. RG III has turned a Big 12 doormat into a real team. IF AZ was a decent team, I would say take a shot at Nick Foles, but AZ sucks. Too many options at QB to lock onto Luck.
I've been saying this for a while too, Luck is a good QB but I'm not seeing Manning
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:58 AM   #74
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At this point, this thread is no longer Redskins related. It is evident by the fine job the Colts have done and will continue to do of sucking for Luck, that Colts management intends to draft Luck #1 and I believe that they will make sure that no other team will be able lose more games then they will. All they have to do is keep starting Curtis Painter at QB.

So, congratulations to the Colts! Your team sucks more than anyone could have imagined it sucking. And not just on the field, but your management has sucked for Luck even more than the team has sucked on the field by not even trying to improve your QB situation since Kerry Collins was injured. You really suck!

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Best QB out there is Mat Barkley. Plays in a pro style offense, almost identical to Shannahan's and is pin point accurate, lighting release and great in the pocket or throwing on the run.
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