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Old 11-28-2011, 04:54 PM   #136
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:00 PM   #137
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

Or... We trade Franchise Tag Landry, Trade him to NE or GB for Flynn or Hoyer! Then trade back in the draft for the Browns 1st rounders....

Profit!
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:04 PM   #138
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

If the skins have a chance at Barkley they should get him, I don't care if the Browns offer 2 #1's.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:10 PM   #139
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I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
You have to strongly consider it, but its a little early and a ton could happen between now and then. But if there is QB at our position who Shanny and Kyle strongly believe in whether its Barkley, Jones, or RG3, we should take the QB at the pick. I got this strange feeling Shanny and Kyle wont like those 3 for some reason.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:34 PM   #140
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I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
I think Barkley is better than anyone we could get down the board, but holy crap, two first round picks? I'd get either Landry Jones or Nick Foles with the first pick and hope they can throw Colt McCoy into the deal as well, and then we still have a full slate of picks to address the issue.

With that said, I imagine that Cleveland will have to move up into the top 4 picks to get Matt Barkley. And we won't pick in the top four unless we lose the final five games of the season. Which we will not.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:31 PM   #141
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I think Barkley is better than anyone we could get down the board, but holy crap, two first round picks? I'd get either Landry Jones or Nick Foles with the first pick and hope they can throw Colt McCoy into the deal as well, and then we still have a full slate of picks to address the issue.

With that said, I imagine that Cleveland will have to move up into the top 4 picks to get Matt Barkley. And we won't pick in the top four unless we lose the final five games of the season. Which we will not.
now that is wishful thinking m8. barely pulling it out versus a horrid seattle team does not bode well for this team coming down the stretch. I actually cringed a bit when we won, but oh well. We are still pretty much assured a top 10 pick. Love to get the 5th or 6th, but I think we are looking at 7 or 8.......or 9
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btw, have you seen our schedule coming up?
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btw, have you seen our schedule coming up?
Even if you think we suck and won't have any better than a 30% of winning any game the rest of the year, the chances that we don't win again in five tries is still under 15%. It's really, really unlikely that we finish 4-12.

I could see 5-11. But even a small improvement and a win over the Jets makes 6-10 a reality, and then we may not pick in the top ten.
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I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
Trading back is sounding more and more like what our option is going to have to be with all the teams that are worse record wise then the Skins needing a QB ie; Colts, Miami, Seattle, and I forget the 1-3 other teams.

And then there is all the talk about some of the college kids not declaring, I'm starting to prepare myself that there might be a limited number of QB or "quality" QB's as some of you only want to buy into available. And how many other teams like the Browns are out there that are infatuated with a specific QB and with a Rookie CAP makes good sense to pick up a future QB?

So yes if the QB's are limited or taken and we can't make the jump worth another teams while then drop back for more picks, take best available either WR or OL, then in the top of the second round grab a QB who best fits the system to develope. On top of that I heard the first "RUMORS" that the Skins might be interested in Rivers after this season. So I guess if we can upgrade from Grossman for Rivers and pick up a decent Rookie QB along with some more weapons and OL then I'd be happy.
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

The chargers will not trade rivers lmao wherever u heard that from they are high.. As for Barkley Id take him I'm tired of passing on QBs
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I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
That might not be such a bad thing. SS, didn't you mention earlier that the Skins weren't thrilled with Barkley? Having landry jones and an extra first rounder would be awesome!

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That's IF jones leaves Ou
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That's IF jones leaves Ou
The whole scenario is an IF lol
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Here is the official NCAA passing efficiency stats.2011 NCAA Division I-A College Football Individual Statistics Leaders for Passing - ESPN
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:39 PM   #150
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That might not be such a bad thing. SS, didn't you mention earlier that the Skins weren't thrilled with Barkley? Having landry jones and an extra first rounder would be awesome!
Yeah but I also said I don't know that I believe that
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