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Old 11-29-2011, 01:02 AM   #151
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We were 5th before the win on Sunday. Did we really lose that many spots?
All I know is they're listed on top of the 4 win teams in the league standings on ESPN. As of November 22 I saw them projected to pick in the 8th spot.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:37 AM   #152
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Can this shitty team do anything right? We're not going to the playoffs. What was the use of winning that game?
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We were 5th before the win on Sunday. Did we really lose that many spots?

I don't think so. I would have figured we only lost a spot or two. I'm guessing we are around #7 now if we have not stayed in the same spot.


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As of right now...

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As I suspected... #7.
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I'm just going to put this out there. Browns apparently really want Barkley. Like they realllly want him.

Could be that they'd be willing to trade their 2 1st round picks to move up to get him.

So...say we have a shot to get Barkley...or we have a shot to trade down and get say a Landry Jones and a nother first round pick. Or maybe we get two 1st round non QBs and someone like a Nick Foles (as an example) at the top of the 2nd.

What do you do?
No deal. No more games...no more settling...I want the highest rated QB we can get our hands on and that's going to mean trading up not down.
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We were 5th before the win on Sunday. Did we really lose that many spots?
I'm not 100% convinced the Skins are going to draft a QB.

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No deal. No more games...no more settling...I want the highest rated QB we can get our hands on and that's going to mean trading up not down.
Yeah, I agree.. This first round should be about doing what needs to be done to solve the QB position. Whether it's Barkley or RGIII (my preference) we need to be aggressive to make sure we get our man. I think we're going to end up in the pick 7-11 range so we may have to give up a #2 in 2013 and maybe a #3 in 2012 to get into the top 4-6 to get one of them. So what, make the move. We MUST solve this position next spring.

That being said, I'm SO GLAD we passed on Gabbert last draft. He looks skittish in the pocket and appears as if he's destined to be an average to below average QB. Bullet dodged.
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I'm not 100% convinced the Skins are going to draft a QB.
What else would they do with their first round pick? Can you make a legitimate case for another position?
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No deal. No more games...no more settling...I want the highest rated QB we can get our hands on and that's going to mean trading up not down.
But... if the Colts won't give up their slot at #1 and they take Luck, and the Rams are not happy with Bradford or feel they could take another QB cause of the Rookie CAP they wouldn't be blowing a ton of money on a 2nd stringer and they take say RGIII, then Miami takes Barkley.... your saying you'd settle for Landry Jones or Tannehill? or one of the others

Foles
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thats SmootSmacks point. If the QB's we all really want are not available when we go to pick because other teams didn't want to trade out with us then would you just take one of the others or would you trade back for more picks, take something else or would you take whatever QB was available?
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Yeah, I agree.. This first round should be about doing what needs to be done to solve the QB position. Whether it's Barkley or RGIII (my preference) we need to be aggressive to make sure we get our man. I think we're going to end up in the pick 7-11 range so we may have to give up a #2 in 2013 and maybe a #3 in 2012 to get into the top 4-6 to get one of them. So what, make the move. We MUST solve this position next spring.

That being said, I'm SO GLAD we passed on Gabbert last draft. He looks skittish in the pocket and appears as if he's destined to be an average to below average QB. Bullet dodged.
I'm all about being aggressive, but I don't want the team to throw away the farm. I'd be willing to go with trading this yrs 1st and next yrs 1st round picks. I'd be willing to go with trading this yrs 1st and 3rd. but "IF" the Browns are interested in someone and they are willing to throw their 2 first rounders out there to move up to get them we don't stand a chance. Maybe if we dropped like this yrs 1st and 2nd and next yrs 1st which I'm not willing to do. The team has too many holes to only think QB. We need

QB
WR
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FS

and back ups. and not everyone can be a 1st round pick. Some here want WR in the 1st round cause you can't find a true #1 in the later rounds. Some want a QB no matter who he is and no matter where he technically should be drafted because we need a QB.

What I think is funny is the fans who seem to think the Skins will automatically have a chance at picking Luck, RGIII, or Barkley sitting at #7 or later. and then there are the fans who simply say "well, we'll just have to trade up" like all the teams ahead of us won't want any of those QB's and it will be easy to give whatever we want to move up in the draft to get whoever we want with out competition.
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What else would they do with their first round pick? Can you make a legitimate case for another position?
We have not true #1 WR. Hankerson is promising but .... I'm hedging my bet and saying a viable #2/#1. As others have pointed out he does not get YAC. He likes to jump for the ball and fall to the ground. He's a nice possesson WR. We need a #1 who will catch the ball and get down field.

You could make a case for a RT. Brown is old and could be replaced.

We have no decent FS. someone who will strike fear in opponants and can run sideline to sideline.

Some here think it's not the FS position but rather a shut down CB.

In any event here's our standing right now...

Great Blue North Draft Report

Indy, Miami, are definitly taking a QB. then there is the question of the other teams and are they satisfied with their starter now? Panthers should be satisfied, but what about the Vikes, and Jaguars, and Rams?
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We have not true #1 WR. Hankerson is promising but .... I'm hedging my bet and saying a viable #2/#1. As others have pointed out he does not get YAC. He likes to jump for the ball and fall to the ground. He's a nice possesson WR. We need a #1 who will catch the ball and get down field.

You could make a case for a RT. Brown is old and could be replaced.

We have no decent FS. someone who will strike fear in opponants and can run sideline to sideline.

Some here think it's not the FS position but rather a shut down CB.

In any event here's our standing right now...

Great Blue North Draft Report

Indy, Miami, are definitly taking a QB. then there is the question of the other teams and are they satisfied with their starter now? Panthers should be satisfied, but what about the Vikes, and Jaguars, and Rams?
I think YACs has been an issue with our entire team, but I wonder if a better QB and more experience would fix that with Hank.
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We have not true #1 WR. Hankerson is promising but .... I'm hedging my bet and saying a viable #2/#1. As others have pointed out he does not get YAC. He likes to jump for the ball and fall to the ground. He's a nice possesson WR. We need a #1 who will catch the ball and get down field.

You could make a case for a RT. Brown is old and could be replaced.

We have no decent FS. someone who will strike fear in opponants and can run sideline to sideline.

Some here think it's not the FS position but rather a shut down CB.

In any event here's our standing right now...

Great Blue North Draft Report

Indy, Miami, are definitly taking a QB. then there is the question of the other teams and are they satisfied with their starter now? Panthers should be satisfied, but what about the Vikes, and Jaguars, and Rams?
The only other position that a case could be made for is WR. A top 15 pick is far too high for RT, MLB, FS or even CB unless it is a sure fire can't miss player. The Vikes, Rams and Jags all drafted first round QB in the past 2 years so no way they pick a QB that early. Our 'competiton' for the top QB will be Cleveland, Seattle and Miami. Everyone else is set, meaning lots of money/time or a young early pick at the position.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:41 AM   #164
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I don't care for a number 1 receiver not named Johnson or Fitzgerald. Packers have a bunch of number 2 receivers and have flourished due to their QB play.
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But... if the Colts won't give up their slot at #1 and they take Luck, and the Rams are not happy with Bradford or feel they could take another QB cause of the Rookie CAP they wouldn't be blowing a ton of money on a 2nd stringer and they take say RGIII, then Miami takes Barkley.... your saying you'd settle for Landry Jones or Tannehill? or one of the others

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thats SmootSmacks point. If the QB's we all really want are not available when we go to pick because other teams didn't want to trade out with us then would you just take one of the others or would you trade back for more picks, take something else or would you take whatever QB was available?
Well it would depend on my (Shannys) grade on Jones or Tannehill. But I will tell you what i would do if your scenario plays out...my move would be to trade with the Rams for Bradford. He's only been in the league 2 years and we already know that Shanny had a very high grade on him. His first year in the league was promising and i blame this year on the Rams for changing offenses in a year with no offseason. He went #1 overall for a reason...he has franchise QB potential. I prefer Bradford over everyone but Luck & RG3...
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