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Old 11-29-2011, 03:59 PM   #196
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I'd put him with the top tier guys. I'd probably go with Luck, then Griffin, then Barkley, then Foles, all top ten picks.
I wonder if RGIII is ready to run an NFL offense. I have no such reservations about Luck and Barkley.

BTW, I think your assessments of Landry and Cousins are right on the mark.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:08 PM   #197
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I'd put him with the top tier guys. I'd probably go with Luck, then Griffin, then Barkley, then Foles, all top ten picks.
That's what I meant. Luck, Barkley, RGIII are sure prospects, Foles is in my opinion some experts disagree. I thought you said he wouldn't be drafted till around the 5th round?
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That's what I meant. Luck, Barkley, RGIII are sure prospects, Foles is in my opinion some experts disagree. I thought you said he wouldn't be drafted till around the 5th round?
I never said that.
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I never said that.
My bad, you said 5th or 6th overall not round. I agree with you 100%.
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Don't forget about Ryan Tannehill. Whether you like him or not, if you want to talk about possible Redskins QBs the conversation has to include, perhaps even start with, Tannehill
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I really hope we pick up RG3, i feel he is going to be a franchise type quarterback. If we suck enough the rest of the year and get a top 6 pick, i think trading down and picking up another draft pick is a very realistic option.

btw, I really think that Dwight Jones from north carolina is going to be a ridiculous talent in the NFL. If we could pair RG3 up with this guy, my god would I be happy. Watching Jones catch the ball is a thing of beauty, very underrated IMO. He doesnt get enough targets, and if he did, he would be putting up obscene numbers. Just watch this guy play........he is going to be ridiculous.


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I just got through watching tapes of Barkley of USC. Never really watched him play, as some USC talent is overhyped just because they are at USC, kinda like Ohio state talent.

After watching the tape (about 20 minutes worth of highlights), this guy is absolutely who we need to draft. If there is any way we can get him, we need to make it happen. He brings it all to the table, and i couldnt believe the touch and zing he puts on passes while the pocket around him disintegrates. Great poise, decision making and accuracy. Surefire top 5 pick, surefire NFL star.
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If you want to make a youtube cut-up of Nick Foles someday, I think people would be shocked at how good of a player he is compared to other guys like Tannehill, Cousins, Lindley, Jones etc. The way people talk about him as a late round pick, you wouldn't think he could make any throw with any amount of pressure on him. Except that he can.

The other thing I like about Foles is how he uses his feet effectively. He's got Tom Brady's athleticism (or lack of), but still moves effectively. And while this may be an effect of his offense, he managed to be one of the toughest players to sack in college football (and one of the ten best passers) despite crappy receivers and two freshman tackles who couldn't block anything.
Someone has already done it. Maybe I need to watch him again but I was honestly more impressed with Tannehill.

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Old 11-29-2011, 06:32 PM   #204
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I mentioned this before I think, we had Foles (along with Barkley and a few others) on the ESPN campus a year or two ago and they did all these drills on our football field. Foles was outstanding. But the QB he is on game day doesn't seem to be that same guy
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Don't forget about Ryan Tannehill. Whether you like him or not, if you want to talk about possible Redskins QBs the conversation has to include, perhaps even start with, Tannehill
I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?
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I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?
Well it's not unusual for Smoot to get info from Ashburn but at the very least his style of play makes him an obvious candidate. Plus if he bust we can use him as a receiver.
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I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?
From various people I've talked to associated with the NFL in general (though not directly with the Redskins themselves, or I should say only with the Redskins) what I've gathered in regards to rookie QBs is

Definite interest in Luck, but not likely possible
Kinda so so on Barkley
Intrigued by RG III, spending a lot of time at his games
Comfortable with Landry Jones
Love Ryan Tannehill
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From various people I've talked to associated with the NFL in general (though not directly with the Redskins themselves, or I should say only with the Redskins) what I've gathered in regards to rookie QBs is

Definite interest in Luck, but not likely possible
Kinda so so on Barkley
Intrigued by RG III, spending a lot of time at his games
Comfortable with Landry Jones
Love Ryan Tannehill
Thanks for the reply. That is very interesting information. I think I'll look at some more film on Tannehill.
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Again smootsmack, the people where you get your information from, about how often % wise, do they tell you a skins rumor and it is actually correct?
percentage wise? I don't know. I mean I don't ever write anything here unless I'm comfortable enough that it could be legit. Only the mods get access to the more outlandish rumors.

But anyway, I think most people here would tell you my info is generally pretty legit: I have "broken" a lot of stuff here. By the same token, I've been wrong. Whether it's because the info I got was wrong, or circumstances changed things. I'm not 100% accurate, even the best aren't

That said, with Allen and Shanahan it is much much harder to figure their plans out than previous regimes
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From various people I've talked to associated with the NFL in general (though not directly with the Redskins themselves, or I should say only with the Redskins) what I've gathered in regards to rookie QBs is

Definite interest in Luck, but not likely possible
Kinda so so on Barkley
Intrigued by RG III, spending a lot of time at his games
Comfortable with Landry Jones
Love Ryan Tannehill
I would be pissed if we drafted Tannenhill and passed on Barkley and RGIII
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