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Old 12-02-2011, 02:45 AM   #316
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LSU fan here and yuck. But why stop there?? Draft him and Jordan Jefferson after trading back into the first rd.
I like it. After being harassed by SEC defenses they'll see NFL defenses as a sort of easy mode.
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I like it. After being harassed by SEC defenses they'll see NFL defenses as a sort of easy mode.
That is either the greatest idea or the biggest epic fail since I watched that guy mop the carpet at the movies.
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LSU fan here and yuck. But why stop there?? Draft him and Jordan Jefferson after trading back into the first rd.
This statement makes feel like the Jamarcus Russell situation would be the greatest move in NFL history compared to this.
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Are the Eagles looking for a QB? It looks as if they will be drafting before us.....
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Are the Eagles looking for a QB? It looks as if they will be drafting before us.....
The Eagles need an offensive line, they will (and should) be drafting a tackle. I would imagine they go QB in the later rounds. As I've said before, Andy Reid's biggest mistake this year was to have a $2 dollar offensive line protect his $100 million dollar QB.
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Are the Eagles looking for a QB? It looks as if they will be drafting before us.....
I doubt it. I think, Reid or no Reid, they stick with Vick.
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I doubt it. I think, Reid or no Reid, they stick with Vick.
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The Eagles need an offensive line, they will (and should) be drafting a tackle. I would imagine they go QB in the later rounds. As I've said before, Andy Reid's biggest mistake this year was to have a $2 dollar offensive line protect his $100 million dollar QB.
Tough to say Ruh because Jason Peters has actually performed well, but they could use a top 5 pick on a yound stud LT and move Peters to RT...I reckon.

Still, the Philly defense is in worse shap than the offense. I could see them look for the best DT or LB w/ the first pick too.
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Tough to say Ruh because Jason Peters has actually performed well, but they could use a top 5 pick on a yound stud LT and move Peters to RT...I reckon.

Still, the Philly defense is in worse shap than the offense. I could see them look for the best DT or LB w/ the first pick too.
Yeah I forgot about their defense issues.
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Philly is married to Vick financially through next season, but I think at the time they did the extension it was obvious that no amount of year one regression could make Vick look like a non-option at QB for 2012. I really don't think Philly was caught off guard by the injury that cost him the last three games.

Going forward, quarterback has to be one of their largest organizational weaknesses, and I think their chances of addressing it in 2012 go up substancially if they divorce themselves from Reid. And to some degree, I think Reid's chances of returning are roughly based on whether or not they believe Michael Vick can win the super bowl on his current contract. If they are just going to use him as a veteran stopgap in a new scheme, there's no reason to let Reid pick the next QB, even though he's good at it.

The Redskins of course aren't paying attention, but they should be. Just replace Michael Vick with Rex Grossman, Andy Reid with Mike Shanahan, and good with not good, and I think that paragraph could be re-written for the Redskins and be very relevant.
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Philly is married to Vick financially through next season, but I think at the time they did the extension it was obvious that no amount of year one regression could make Vick look like a non-option at QB for 2012. I really don't think Philly was caught off guard by the injury that cost him the last three games.

Going forward, quarterback has to be one of their largest organizational weaknesses, and I think their chances of addressing it in 2012 go up substancially if they divorce themselves from Reid. And to some degree, I think Reid's chances of returning are roughly based on whether or not they believe Michael Vick can win the super bowl on his current contract. If they are just going to use him as a veteran stopgap in a new scheme, there's no reason to let Reid pick the next QB, even though he's good at it.

The Redskins of course aren't paying attention, but they should be. Just replace Michael Vick with Rex Grossman, Andy Reid with Mike Shanahan, and good with not good, and I think that paragraph could be re-written for the Redskins and be very relevant.
Bigger difference is the Redskins are just taking Rex out for Starbucks, they didn't put a ring on it

Anyhow, let's try to keep this thread about QB Prospects, not the Eagles
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Bigger difference is the Redskins are just taking Rex out for Starbucks, they didn't put a ring on it

Anyhow, let's try to keep this thread about QB Prospects, not the Eagles
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Bigger difference is the Redskins are just taking Rex out for Starbucks, they didn't put a ring on it

Anyhow, let's try to keep this thread about QB Prospects, not the Eagles
Well, yeah. There's that.

I think that one question that hasn't been brought up yet in this thread is which prospects in the upcoming draft would actually be better options than Rex Grossman as rookies. I think a big part of the philosophy that the Redskins will compete in 2012 is that we'll draft a guy who sends Grossman to the bench and Beck to retirement, and then we'll improve by 3 or 4 wins based that alone.

But if the people who can do that are limited to being Andrew Luck or Matt Barkley, it would seem unlikely that the Redskins would be able to significantly improve on Grossman next year. Unless of course they go the free agent route instead/in addition.
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You heard it here first; Nick Foles will be the next Joe Flacco.


Flacco at this time when he was coming out was viewed as a 3rd rounder before combine, etc. Foles is right now. Both have similar talents and questions. Just a hunch.
Never seen Foles play, but Dilfer analyzes QB's coming out and was giving this guys some major compliments.
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I am pretty confident you are joking about this fact. I hope so anyway...

DeAngelo Hall (Hot or Cold, can't be consistent, gets burned too much)
Josh Wilson (Hasn't played up to the hype)
Kevin Barnes (Has not played well)
Phillip Buchanon (Can't keep out of suspension)
Brother I'm always joking.

But who do we have FS wise? Atogwe.

and listed as simply Safety is Doughty and Gomes. I guess they could play FS but Doughty sucks as FS. He's a SS. Landry is listed as SS on the website. So in reality we have Atogwe (who has not really impressed me yet) and Gomes (getting better). Comparing FS and CB the CB position is stacked. I'm not saying there's a ton of talent I'm saying they have bodies there.
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