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Old 12-10-2011, 08:44 AM   #466
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I hope Philly gets rid of Reid and Morningwhig goes with him.
Removing the offensive staff from Philly will set that team back for awhile and all but erase them from contention.

But, I don't think Philly is that dumb.
The perception is that Vick has regressed, but I don't think its evident with his play.
I think the team around him is worse on the OL at WR and Vick is suffering as consequent.
But, a metric I like to use for judging QB play is ESPN TQBR and they have Vick top 10 or near it and I think that is an accurate assessment of how he has played this season.
No, Vick hasn't regressed. He performed fine this year. It was just that last year his interception rate was fluky low and this year it is fluky high. The real Vick is somewhere in the middle. The WRs have been total trash this year. Maclin can't stay on the field and Jackson, at times, is a stiff. Riley Cooper is not a pro football player.

But at the same time, the idea that Vick is a franchise QB ignores that he can't play more than 12 games a season because of his durability. And their backup situation was better last year. I think Kafka will be ready for an extended role next year, they still need to address the position.
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:54 PM   #467
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I think its a forgone conclusion that RG3is going to win the Heisman.........
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:36 PM   #468
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Sounds like he is describing Luck and Barkley.
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This is where the great quarterback uses his experience, vision, mobility and what we will call spontaneous genius. He makes something good happen. This, of course, is what we saw in Joe Montana when he pulled out those dramatic victories for Notre Dame.
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THAT was quite a throw.
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That was one hell of a sweet throw.
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Well, he won it.
He'd look nice in burgundy and gold.
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Give me RGIII over Barkley because he elevated the players around him. Everyone knows USC gets big time talent unlike Baylor gets lower level talent.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:32 AM   #473
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I still don't think it'll be either of those guys. I think the name you're going to hear a lot of next April in connection with the Skins is Tannehill
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Ok so are drafting tannehill with the first pick, trading down, or waiting till second round?
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Ok so are drafting tannehill with the first pick, trading down, or waiting till second round?
It'd be nice to get blackmon with the first, and tannehil w/ the second. Overall, I'd prefer we'd not play a guessing game with a project QB. For once, I want that QB other fans wish they had... Can we please draft Barkley?
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Revised rankings:

1. Andrew Luck
2a. Robert Griffin
2b. Matt Barkley
2c. Nick Foles
5. Kellen Moore
6a. Kirk Cousins
6b. Landry Jones
8. Ryan Tannehill
9. Dominique Davis
10. Chandler Harnish
11. Case Keenum
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Jacory Harris
14. Ryan Lindley
15. G.J. Kinne

Haven't seen B.J. Coleman yet.
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Ok so are drafting tannehill with the first pick, trading down, or waiting till second round?
I don't know. Maybe we'll take him with our first pick. Maybe Luck, Barkley, and RGIII won't be even be available even if they did want them. Maybe we'll add a 2nd first round pick by moving up from the 2nd round.

I really don't know. I could be totally wrong. A couple of years ago I had a feeling very early that we'd take Trent Williams...and we did. Last year I thought it was Robert Quinn...and we didn't (though I did have Kerrigan in my final mock). This year, I just have a feeling about Tannehill. I just think he's the guy the Shanahans are truly targeting
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I don't know. Maybe we'll take him with our first pick. Maybe Luck, Barkley, and RGIII won't be even be available even if they did want them. Maybe we'll add a 2nd first round pick by moving up from the 2nd round.

I really don't know. I could be totally wrong. A couple of years ago I had a feeling very early that we'd take Trent Williams...and we did. Last year I thought it was Robert Quinn...and we didn't (though I did have Kerrigan in my final mock). This year, I just have a feeling about Tannehill. I just think he's the guy the Shanahans are truly targeting
Tannehill doesn't have the rocket arm shanahan covets... Plus why would they draft a project player so high in the draft? I just hope your intuition is wrong in this instance.
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Revised rankings:

1. Andrew Luck
2a. Robert Griffin
2b. Matt Barkley
2c. Nick Foles
5. Kellen Moore
6a. Kirk Cousins
6b. Landry Jones
8. Ryan Tannehill
9. Dominique Davis
10. Chandler Harnish
11. Case Keenum
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Jacory Harris
14. Ryan Lindley
15. G.J. Kinne

Haven't seen B.J. Coleman yet.
Foles is a 2nd round possibility. I know they've scouted Davis and Harnish as potential later round selections. I think Kinne as well, but I'm not 100% sure
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Tannehill doesn't have the rocket arm shanahan covets... Plus why would they draft a project player so high in the draft? I just hope your intuition is wrong in this instance.
I think he's got a pretty strong arm. Also, if we're picking in the top 5 then no I don't think it'll be Tannehill. Sorry, should have been clearer. But I don't think we'll necessarily take a QB in the top 5 either.
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