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Old 12-15-2011, 09:54 AM   #616
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They had no choice cause they had to get younger. The only real way to do it is by the draft. But they still went out and signed several free agents, like they always do. I see them doing to same thing this year, signing more free agents and drafting. But like I said, w/ an older coach and a GM that thinks "the future is now" ...and an impatient owner and a fed up fan base, you'd be kidding yourself if you think the Redskins are not going to make a run at Manning....if he goes on the trading block.
I just don't see them trading him. They owe him another $28M bonus before they can even offer him up.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:01 AM   #617
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They had no choice cause they had to get younger. The only real way to do it is by the draft. But they still went out and signed several free agents, like they always do. I see them doing to same thing this year, signing more free agents and drafting. But like I said, w/ an older coach and a GM that thinks "the future is now" ...and an impatient owner and a fed up fan base, you'd be kidding yourself if you think the Redskins are not going to make a run at Manning....if he goes on the trading block.
I really think you're reading the tea leaves incorrectly on this one. The Skins are rebuilding - their just not admitting to it in a straightforward manner. To put it more succinctly, Bruce Allen's "the future is now" remark was pure bullshit. Don't be mislead.

Because the Skiins are rebuilding, going after Peyton Manning would be the wrong move for this team. We are not going to be competing for a title for at least two more seasons, if nearly everything goes well. Not to mention that Peyton is a very big injury risk which the Skins cannot afford to take.

As for the Free Agent pickups. these were a different type of FAs for the Skins. They were younger mid-level FA's - not silver bullets but good players who filled needs - who should be around when the team has been rebuilt. To rebuild, we need good young players who were drafted and good young players who were acquired through Free Agency.

Our designated Franchise QB will almost certainly be drafted.

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Giving up multiple high round picks for a 36 year old QB with some serious injury concerns? I just don't see the Skins making that move.

Plus why would Manning want to come here? If he was traded, he's gonna want to go to a team ready to contend right now.
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I think for guys like C. Mortenson & J. Clayton who are paid by espn to not only find info about players, but also to offer insight & predictions (read opinion) on players' & teams' moves, linking Manning to the Skins is simply the low hanging fruit of their hypothesis. Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody has actually reported any facts other than salary figures.

Hope we are not in the manning talks when the draft approaches, unless Allen can use that as leverage to broker another deal.
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Giving up multiple high round picks for a 36 year old QB with some serious injury concerns? I just don't see the Skins making that move.

Plus why would Manning want to come here? If he was traded, he's gonna want to go to a team ready to contend right now.
I think with our team and a healthy Manning we are ready to contend now.
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I think with our team and a healthy Manning we are ready to contend now.

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The team that would benefit the most if Manning was traded, would be the 49ers. Alex Smith would be a FA, they have a young QB in the wings that Manning could mentor and are a playoff team.
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The team that would benefit the most if Manning was traded, would be the 49ers. Alex Smith would be a FA, they have a young QB in the wings that Manning could mentor and are a playoff team.
Either them or the Jets would be the ideal place for Manning. I don't think he will be traded at this point. My guess is that Luck and Manning will be forced to coexist for a year or two.
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Giving up multiple high round picks for a 36 year old QB with some serious injury concerns? I just don't see the Skins making that move.

Plus why would Manning want to come here? If he was traded, he's gonna want to go to a team ready to contend right now.
36 years old or not, the Colts will want a high price in trade. I'm not sure what team would make that move because the price will be so steep. I'm with you, I don't see Manning coming here.
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M and M talked the possibility earlier today, said it could be a good fit
Did you actually listen to this. Because I think your statement about what they said is pretty inaccurate
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I just don't see them trading him. They owe him another $28M bonus before they can even offer him up.
But they can work out numbers to make it work. No one is paying him that amount of money. Not even Indy.
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I really think you're reading the tea leaves incorrectly on this one. The Skins are rebuilding - their just not admitting to it in a straightforward manner. To put it more succinctly, Bruce Allen's "the future is now" remark was pure bullshit. Don't be mislead.

Because the Skiins are rebuilding, going after Peyton Manning would be the wrong move for this team. We are not going to be competing for a title for at least two more seasons, if nearly everything goes well. Not to mention that Peyton is a very big injury risk which the Skins cannot afford to take.

As for the Free Agent pickups. these were a different type of FAs for the Skins. They were younger mid-level FA's - not silver bullets but good players who filled needs - who should be around when the team has been rebuilt. To rebuild, we need good young players who were drafted and good young players who were acquired through Free Agency.

Our designated Franchise QB will almost certainly be drafted.
Maybe I am. But with a group of solid vet wr's...Stallworth, Moss and Gafney, plus Hank coming back, a real good TE, revamp the line and bring in a fa or two and with an above average defense and a healthy Manning this team could contend. It certainly would be a conterder in the division. Hell...right now this team plays competitive games in the division with Rex Grossman.

All I'm saying is the FO office wants to win now. Rebuilding and taking 3-4 years isn't their thing.
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Maybe I am. But with a group of solid vet wr's...Stallworth, Moss and Gafney, plus Hank coming back, a real good TE, revamp the line and bring in a fa or two and with an above average defense and a healthy Manning this team could contend. It certainly would be a conterder in the division. Hell...right now this team plays competitive games in the division with Rex Grossman.

All I'm saying is the FO office wants to win now. Rebuilding and taking 3-4 years isn't their thing.
After the whole situation and reaction to the McNabb trade I can't even fathom what would happen if we got Manning. I think the world would explode. And at very least, my head...
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;868113]Maybe I am. But with a group of solid vet wr's...Stallworth, Moss and Gafney, plus Hank coming back, a real good TE, revamp the line and bring in a fa or two and with an above average defense and a healthy Manning this team could contend. It certainly would be a conterder in the division. Hell...right now this team plays competitive games in the division with Rex Grossman.

All I'm saying is the FO office wants to win now. Rebuilding and taking 3-4 years isn't their thing.[/QUOTE]

We ARE rebuilding, that doesn't mean they don't want to "win now." Of course they do, but other than the mcnabb deal the new regime has shown it will not do so at any cost. Compare our moves to Philly's this year.

This article in today's WP explains it well & gives some #s to back it up. Boswell even calls BS on Allen saying "the future is now."

Mike Shanahan is forging a new identity for the Redskins: Building through the draft - The Washington Post
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I agree. I hope they don't do it but you know the make up of the brain trust. Do you think they really want to wait around for a rookie?
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