2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

GusFrerotte · 11-25-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Wow, last week it was all he did was throw deep and acurate. I'll defer cause I honestly don't watch a ton of college FB but I've noticed that LSU is winning and winning big most of it's games. On top of that they are ranked #1 which would lead me to believe they have a good QB that makes good decisions. .... and no one has been talking about him. At all.

Ever hear of a QB from LSU named Russell? He looked great also in college. All kidding aside Jefferson just might be something to think about, but then LSU is in a league of its own. It boggles the mind why the NCAA doesn't investigate schools like OU or LSU. I mean please, Louisiana is a total shithole minus the Big Easy, and then even that isn't all that either. Same with Oklahoma, another average state university in a rather shitty state, but they have all these kids coming in to play football from all over the place.

Big C · 11-25-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tc2deuce

My top QB's for 2012 draft

Luck- 1st pick 1st round
Barkley- top 5 1st rounder
RGIII/Landry Jones 5-10 1st round
Russell Wilson 2nd round (mid to late)
Weeden 3rd round pick
Tannehill 2nd to 3rd round pick
Cousins
Foles
Lindley sleeper pick
Keenum
Moore

russell wilson is about 5-10/5-11,i doubt he will be a 2nd rounder.

and guys, jordan jefferson seriously? hes not any good. hes never looked all that great. lsu wins with excellent defense, not good quarterback play.

CultBrennan59 · 11-25-2011, 07:21 PM

Whoever wrote that they heard a rumor that Luck may stay, let me kill that rumor now. He was on ESPN with Steve Young a few weeks ago, and Steve asked him if it was his last year at Stanford. Andrew said Yes it is.

And yes, this QB class is 3 great QB's (should they all declare), 2 potentially good QB's, and a bunch of back ups and busts.

Don't bother with Matt Flynn, he seems like a Kevin Kolb all over again. Go with the unknown, rather than the known or somewhat known. BTW part of the reason Flynn did so good against the Pats was because they didn't know what to expect from him.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 11-25-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Ever hear of a QB from LSU named Russell? He looked great also in college. All kidding aside Jefferson just might be something to think about, but then LSU is in a league of its own. It boggles the mind why the NCAA doesn't investigate schools like OU or LSU. I mean please, Louisiana is a total shithole minus the Big Easy, and then even that isn't all that either. Same with Oklahoma, another average state university in a rather shitty state, but they have all these kids coming in to play football from all over the place.

Funny seeing how most of the LSU players are from the state of Louisana. And Jarett Lee has never looked great.

itvnetop · 11-25-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think that both Barkley and Landry would be smart to enter the draft. I truly don't understand how any player who would probably be picked in the Top 10 in the draft would stay in school. I know that some players can get insurance against injury but I think that if I were that player's parent I would advise him to come out and get the money while he can. It's just too risky to stay in school when there is so much money at stake.

Money's not the most important factor when it comes to certain kids. It usually makes sense for those who need it more than others, but Barkley comes from a financially stable family (he was born in Newport Beach).

In terms of why he'd stay? How about the return of all of the important skill players (in addition to possibly Kalil), the chance to win a ring and the potential to smash all quarterback records at USC. He's suffered through the sanctions... one more year may have been the reason he stayed.

Having said that, it would be unreal if he went from the cardinal and gold to the B&G.

Dirtbag59 · 11-25-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

LOL Lee is a HORRIBLE Passer

I want nothing to do with the current stable of Bama and LSU QB's. If you must have an SEC QB, Aaron Murray seems like a good option for down the road.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 11-25-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I want nothing to do with the current stable of Bama and LSU QB's. If you must have an SEC QB, Aaron Murray seems like a good option for down the road.

Or Zach Mettenberger in a couple of seasons.

skinsfaninok · 11-25-2011, 10:39 PM

Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution.

From Mel Kiper

SFREDSKIN · 11-25-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution.

From Mel Kiper

If the QB has played in a Pro type offense such as Barkley and Luck then the transition would be smoother than with the other QB's available.

SmootSmack · 11-25-2011, 11:13 PM

I think Hoyer is going to be a hot commodity, but not necessarily deservedly so

skinsfaninok · 11-25-2011, 11:37 PM

Flynn will be the #1 FA QB? Looks like it honestly

skins89moss · 11-26-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If the QB has played in a Pro type offense such as Barkley and Luck then the transition would be smoother than with the other QB's available.

You mean like the system Cam Newton played in at Auburn? LOL systems help but its the player that can make a system better. The so called experts did not think Cam would start out this good.

skins89moss · 11-26-2011, 12:26 AM

I would rather for us to draft a QB in the 1st round if we thought he could be our starter the 1st year or 2 . If he is not take the best player available at that spot and get a QB in the 2nd round. I would be ok with Rex coming back to compete with our rookie QB.

SFREDSKIN · 11-26-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by skins89moss

You mean like the system Cam Newton played in at Auburn? LOL systems help but its the player that can make a system better. The so called experts did not think Cam would start out this good.

That could be RGIII next year if he comes out, both great athletes. I still want Barkley since we will have no Luck.

Dirtbag59 · 11-26-2011, 12:39 AM

Per Mel Kiper.

1. Washington Redskins

Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution.

11-25-2011, 07:21 PM	#78
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,593	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) Whoever wrote that they heard a rumor that Luck may stay, let me kill that rumor now. He was on ESPN with Steve Young a few weeks ago, and Steve asked him if it was his last year at Stanford. Andrew said Yes it is. And yes, this QB class is 3 great QB's (should they all declare), 2 potentially good QB's, and a bunch of back ups and busts. Don't bother with Matt Flynn, he seems like a Kevin Kolb all over again. Go with the unknown, rather than the known or somewhat known. BTW part of the reason Flynn did so good against the Pats was because they didn't know what to expect from him. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

11-25-2011, 10:39 PM	#83
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution. From Mel Kiper __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-25-2011, 11:13 PM	#85
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	I think Hoyer is going to be a hot commodity, but not necessarily deservedly so __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-25-2011, 11:37 PM	#86
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) Flynn will be the #1 FA QB? Looks like it honestly __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-26-2011, 12:26 AM	#88
skins89moss Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,956	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) I would rather for us to draft a QB in the 1st round if we thought he could be our starter the 1st year or 2 . If he is not take the best player available at that spot and get a QB in the 2nd round. I would be ok with Rex coming back to compete with our rookie QB. __________________ RGIII the franchise QB we have been waiting for since Mark Rypien leads us to a SuperBowl win over the Bills. Redskins Fan Since 1972

11-26-2011, 12:39 AM	#90
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2) Per Mel Kiper. 1. Washington Redskins Not only do the Redskins not have a long-term solution at the position in either Rex Grossman or John Beck, they've won enough to be well out of the Andrew Luck race. Washington could be better served trying to deal for a quarterback, or getting into position for a guy like Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. But there's a problem: If you think the Skins have a roster that's ready to compete for a playoff position in 2012 -- and I certainly think they could -- do you really want a rookie in there? I wonder if the Redskins are a team that looks at a trade for a current starter, or targets a guy who might be ready to take over, such as Matt Flynn or Brian Hoyer. Either way, this is a team that is in desperate need of a solution. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

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