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Old 12-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #31
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We are talking overall player not record.. JC was on a shit team his whole career mark has a loaded roster to work with Huge difference. Sanchez will never lead a team to a SB win he's a better Rex grossman that's it
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:59 PM   #32
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We are talking overall player not record.. JC was on a shit team his whole career mark has a loaded roster to work with Huge difference. Sanchez will never lead a team to a SB win he's a better Rex grossman that's it
I'll take that bet. His numbers have improved every year, last year in the playoffs he was great, remember he's in his 3rd year with no training camp.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:05 PM   #33
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Weak arm and avg at best career numbers, he wasn't worth his draft pick, yeah he's won as a starter but so has Rex big deal. I'd take 15 QBs in the league today over him
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:06 PM   #34
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Weak arm and avg at best career numbers, he wasn't worth his draft pick, yeah he's won as a starter but so has Rex big deal. I'd take 15 QBs in the league today over him
Just curious, who would you take? Manning, Brees, Brady, etc. don't count.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:11 PM   #35
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They have to count lol

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Old 12-11-2011, 09:13 PM   #36
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Sanchez is avg man nothing special and his numbers show it, and thats with really good players around him
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:21 PM   #37
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Re: RGIII Heisman Winner

Let's see what he does the rest of the season, then you can talk and same here.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:24 PM   #38
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I agree and for the record I wanted to draft Sanchez don't get me wrong I'd take him over Rex all day I just don't think he's much better than JC
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Just curious, who would you take? Manning, Brees, Brady, etc. don't count.
Are they not QBs in the league? Why wouldn't they count?
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Are they not QBs in the league? Why wouldn't they count?
I'm comparing him to second tier or young QB's, not solid experienced stars. People have been ripping Sanchez, I think he's doing a good job.
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I understand and partially agree with what you're saying but this hasn't been the case lately. If Tim Tebow never would of won the Heisman ESPN and everyone else wouldn't have sensationalized him to the degree that they did. The same can be said for Matt Leinert. No way would he would of been a top 10 pick if he didn't win the Heisman. Now that the media has gone into hype overdrive Robert Griffin will be the most talked about pick next to Luck, infact this whole draft season will be comparing the 2 non-stop and everyone will give their opinions as to who should draft who and why. It's going to be the lead in story for months to come just you wait.
I'd say Tebow was a first round pick because he made Josh McDaniels fall in love with his intangibles and work ethic. Keep in mind Tebow was a college God before he won the Heisman. The ceremony was just a formality.

Matt Leinart on the other hand got picked in the first because he played extremely well in a pro style offense and was a major part in USC winning many big games (which is what got him the Heisman). On top of that Carson Palmer was coming off a pro bowl season, which to some scouts meant that SC's offense prepared QB's for the NFL. Obviously hind sight is 20-20 but on draft day few saw the captain check down party boy surrounded by blue chip talent.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:32 PM   #42
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Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.
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just look at RGIII background and any team would be sold on him!
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:38 PM   #44
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Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.
From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.
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Old 12-13-2011, 11:08 AM   #45
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Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now
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