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Old 12-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #136
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2nd to last paragraph..

"St. Louis probably will open the bidding at three first-rounders for their pick. Two firsts and a second over three years, maybe. Including a player would be difficult for the Redskins, who don't have much to offer other than linebackers Brian Orakpo and Ryan Kerrigan and they're not expendable. Maybe Roy Helu, but the Rams have a running back."

It is misleading/confusing he says 3 first rounders then 2 first and second. So which is it?
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:24 PM   #137
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One thing I have learned by watching the NFL for the past 30+ years, never say never. Never thought the 49ers would let Montana walk, but they did. Never thought the 'skins would bench John Riggins for George Rogers, but they did. If Houston makes a deep run in the playoffs with Yates, it could definitely happen. Now, is it likely Houston makes a deep run in the playoffs? That's really the question. I haven't really sat down and watched any Texans games other than the parts I see on the Redzone, but the kid keeps leading Houston to wins.

In my opinion, if the 'skins HAD to go the free agency route or the trade route for a vet QB, Schaub would be the best fit. Now really, it's more likely the Redskins draft a QB, I know this. But, there is always a better than outside chance that this scenario happens IF AND ONLY IF, Houston makes a deep run in the playoffs - and especially if they happen to make the Super Bowl. If the latter happened, consider Matt Schaub gone from Houston.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:26 PM   #138
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If we were to do something stupid and not take a QB in the first, I like Foles and then Tannhill, in the second.
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Bottom line, Shanahan's numbers may not reflect a sea change in the way this organization is being run but, I would suggest, the way this team is playing at the end of a second losing season does.
I also want to point out, and not to distract too much from a thread about QBs, that Edwin Williams and Chad Rinehart have both been pretty fantastic as injury replacements in Chicago and Buffalo. I thought both showed more here than Maurice Hurt and Willie Smith have in limited time.
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In order to grab the price sometimes you to give up something valuable. I would consider throwing in Williams plus the 1st and sign and trade Davis along. I'm Leary of those 2, coming out of college the drug rumors surrounded both, yet they both laughed at the policy instead of being smart. Not only that, but 3 failed drug tests, what does the future hold for them. The skins have proved that they can play without them, hell throw Landry while you are it
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In order to grab the price sometimes you to give up something valuable. I would consider throwing in Williams plus the 1st and sign and trade Davis along. I'm Leary of those 2, coming out of college the drug rumors surrounded both, yet they both laughed at the policy instead of being smart. Not only that, but 3 failed drug tests, what does the future hold for them. The skins have proved that they can play without them, hell throw Landry while you are it
The only valuable assets this team has, besides our draft picks, are Orakpo and Kerrigan. Outside of that, I don't see any other player having significant trade value.
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Skins aren't trading TW SF, No chance.. He's a bigtime talent and I think he'll put the weed down
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The only valuable assets this team has, besides our draft picks, are Orakpo and Kerrigan. Outside of that, I don't see any other player having significant trade value.
Man, I think you are right.
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Sam Bradford has all the tools to become a great NFL QB, Colt may not suck (I hate texas lol) But he's small and has an avg arm on top of that he isn't very accurate, Bradford had a good rookie year but that team is just trash around him just wait until he actually gets some help.
When a prospect gets to the NFL he ceases being judged by skillset, they're judged by production.

If you're trying to argue that Bradford has a better skillset..(because the notion that McCoy is inaccurate is far to silly and unsupported to bother arguing against) then I'll concede that Bradford has a slightly better skillset.
But, both have little talent around them and this has been there production thus far:

Bradford 5,676-57.6%-24 TDs-21 INTs-74.2 Rating (89 rush yds)
McCoy.. 4,309-58.4%-20 TDs-20 INTs-74.6 Rating (348 rush yds)

Strikingly similar no?

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As for Sanchez I just see too much Rex Grossman in him...No thanks
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No chance and no to colt McCoy he sucks, small and avg arm, I'd rathe have Sanchez.
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That is true I said no thanks on mark unless it was compared to McCoy and I agree Sam s numbers aren't mind blowing I just think he's a guy that can lead a team far and colt is more of a guy that manages the game. Either way Let's hope we can get a QB to lean on for Years to come! HTTR
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:51 PM   #146
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Colt McCoy, last I heard is averaging the fewest yards per attempt in the NFL this season. Given Hillis' decline and the lack of pass-catching weapons around him-not to mention the questions about his arm strength, that's probably not too surprising a stat.

That Drew Brees has the second fewest is a bit surprising. Thing is when Brees does go deep, he connects like no other QB.
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Brees is as accurate of a thrower that's played in the NFL he's simply incredible..
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Brees is as accurate of a thrower that's played in the NFL he's simply incredible..
Yeah well he one of the passes he threw to me he was way off. He claims I ran the wrong route but what does he know
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Lol sorry SS I'm rolling w drew on that one
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Well I did bring up Colt McCoy several weeks back but I don't think he's necessarily coming here. He's just someone that could be available.

A lot of people talk about Flynn and Hoyer. I think the Seahawks are going to go hard after Flynn and Hoyer stays in NE.

There is someone else rumored, but I'll keep that name under wraps and regardless he wouldn't deter the Redskins from drafting a QB

And as for the QB, the big 3 we all know of isn't necessarily the Redskins big 3. Of course, whether some guys even come out will make a huge difference
What about Ryan Mallet? Is he just going to sit and rot on New England's bench? He's got the skill set to be a great passer. I know the Shanahan's don't like him and he's not very mature. But maybe he's learning from Brady.
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