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Old 12-20-2011, 09:36 PM   #151
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That is true I said no thanks on mark unless it was compared to McCoy and I agree Sam s numbers aren't mind blowing I just think he's a guy that can lead a team far and colt is more of a guy that manages the game. Either way Let's hope we can get a QB to lean on for Years to come! HTTR
Which is fine, but its purely your perception.
There is nothing about there production that would one lead a team and one can 'only' manage a game.
If you really want to hash out brass tacks, McCoys production is more impressive then Bradfords when you consider the respective divisions and the quality of the teams they face.

But, I digress.

I hope that we get Matt Barkley because I think he could relate really well to Kyle's scheme.
In my heart of hearts I want RGIII but have concerns about Kyle's ability to teach the basic concepts of his vaunted to scheme to a non-prostyle QB unfamiliar with a rhythm drop back passing offense.

My sleeper QB is Russell Wilson, I love this guys skillset.
Dynamic playmaker, good arm, polished rhythm drop back pro-style QB.
If only he wasn't 5'11 he would be my guy.
Hey, how tall is Drew Brees 6'0 what a difference an inch makes.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:39 PM   #152
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Colt McCoy, last I heard is averaging the fewest yards per attempt in the NFL this season. Given Hillis' decline and the lack of pass-catching weapons around him-not to mention the questions about his arm strength, that's probably not too surprising a stat.

That Drew Brees has the second fewest is a bit surprising. Thing is when Brees does go deep, he connects like no other QB.
Second fewest YPA (5.90) after Gabbert; Bradford isn't too far away @ 6.06.

But its largely a function of Shurmurs 3 step drop heavy WCO.
When Shurmur was Bradford's OC Bradford was near the bottom for YPA @ 5.95 meanwhile McCoy was 7.10 w/ Dabol as his OC.

Just fur scuz Bradford career YPA- 5.99/McCoy 6.29
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There is someone else rumored, but I'll keep that name under wraps and regardless he wouldn't deter the Redskins from drafting a QB
Josh Johnson? He seems like a logical fit.
Harbaugh's star pupil prior to Stanford.
Coming out of SDSU 1-AA he was a polished 3-5-7 step rhythm drop back passer with great athleticism.
He was also drafted by Bruce Allen for Gruden's WCO.
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Yeah well he one of the passes he threw to me he was way off. He claims I ran the wrong route but what does he know
It really is cool that you rub it in our faces that you get to hang out and play catch with the NFL elite SS. While I sit at home and hold my pennant and swing it back and forth...
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I've seen Josh johnson play idk about starting though
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:18 PM   #155
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I've seen Josh johnson play idk about starting though
I would take Josh Johnson over Flynn or Hoyer.
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What about Ryan Mallet? Is he just going to sit and rot on New England's bench? He's got the skill set to be a great passer. I know the Shanahan's don't like him and he's not very mature. But maybe he's learning from Brady.
How do you know the Shanahan's didn't like him?
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Second fewest YPA (5.90) after Gabbert; Bradford isn't too far away @ 6.06.

But its largely a function of Shurmurs 3 step drop heavy WCO.
When Shurmur was Bradford's OC Bradford was near the bottom for YPA @ 5.95 meanwhile McCoy was 7.10 w/ Dabol as his OC.

Just fur scuz Bradford career YPA- 5.99/McCoy 6.29
Josh Johnson? He seems like a logical fit.
Harbaugh's star pupil prior to Stanford.
Coming out of SDSU 1-AA he was a polished 3-5-7 step rhythm drop back passer with great athleticism.
He was also drafted by Bruce Allen for Gruden's WCO.
Josh Johnson is indeed a name I've mentioned. But that was just my own guessing. And no, not the guy I'm talking about
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It's fun to predict and guess as a fan base. We do desperately need a QB, but there are many things that happen on draft day that we're not privy to. Maybe they like two guys and try to trade up but the price tag is too high. I don't want them to leverage our future, necessarily, just to get their guy. I hope the majority of Skins fans understand this. It's kind of funny, I can see this playing a couple ways.

1. Skins throw away / over pay for Luck/Griffin as usual.
2. Skins have a crappy draft b/c they don't get Luck / Griffin.

I guess I'm trying to say sh** happens and while I'd like to walk away w/ Luck/Griffin/or other we need to continue to draft good players. I trust them and expect them to be smart about it.

I know you know this, but while i'd be disappointed I'd be happy with another good draft. While Grossman is not our long term answer, he may be our answer next year.
I don't know why there is all this speculation about RG3. He basically is only going to go into the draft as a last option. His "Plan B". He wants to go to law school and compete in the 2012 Summer Olympics in track and field.
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I don't know if you guys knew this, but Harbaugh tried to recruit RGIII at the same time he was recruiting Luck.

Griffin, a quarterback and track star out of Copperas Cove High School in Texas, would come to Palo Alto and play for Harbaugh at Stanford, sharing quarterback duties with another Texas high schooler — a blue-chip recruit named Andrew Luck.
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Josh Johnson is indeed a name I've mentioned. But that was just my own guessing. And no, not the guy I'm talking about
Okay, TJ Yates, Matt Lienart, Dan Orlovsky?
I'll stop guessing now.
Although I would really like to know and you probably won't tell me/us.

Tease.
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Okay, TJ Yates, Matt Lienart, Dan Orlovsky?
I'll stop guessing now.
Although I would really like to know and you probably won't tell me/us.

Tease.
No, eh who knows anymore, Noooooooo (I hope)

Not going to say it because I don't have enough info to confirm the rumor it legit enough to mention to the masses. It's not a name you'd probably expect and it may not be a name some people want to hear. So I'd rather just keep it under wraps for now.
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No, eh who knows anymore, Noooooooo (I hope)

Not going to say it because I don't have enough info to confirm the rumor it legit enough to mention to the masses. It's not a name you'd probably expect and it may not be a name some people want to hear. So I'd rather just keep it under wraps for now.
Jimmy Clausen?
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Jimmy Clausen?
That is who I was thinking too. I would not be a fan of that move. But, if we drafted our own QB to develop too, I guess I wouldn't be too terribly upset.
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Jimmy Clausen?
Jimmy Clausen? Jeez! Could you imagine?!

He's not a FA though, is he?
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I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB
If the Redskins are in the top 5 and pass on a QB I will probably break my TV and end up in a mental institution...
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