2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

mbedner3420

That is who I was thinking too. I would not be a fan of that move. But, if we drafted our own QB to develop too, I guess I wouldn't be too terribly upset.

SmootSmack

Jimmy Clausen? Jeez! Could you imagine?!

He's not a FA though, is he?

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celts32

If the Redskins are in the top 5 and pass on a QB I will probably break my TV and end up in a mental institution...

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mbedner3420

I just assumed he'd be cut after this year.

SmootSmack

Let me just throw this hypothetical out there?

Is Barkley and say Dwight Jones significantly better than Justin Blackmon Nick Foles?

I guess what I'm asking is do you think the gap between the top 3 (Luck, Barkley, RG III) and the next set of QBs significant?

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mbedner3420

I would say so. I would say there is a big drop off from Barkley to Landry Jones (who someone once considered the second best QB in this draft class after Luck -- he is now considered a second teir QB).

Also, I know it was an example, but I can't see Blackmon falling to us anyway or Shanahan trading up for him.

celts32

I am not as high on Barkley but with the other 2 I think the gap is significant. I don't want to settle anymore. I don't care about draft value or filling as many holes as possible in this draft. I want them to get the #1 QB on their board...and if that's not possible because the Colts won't trade then i want them to get the #2 QB on their board. I don't want them to trade down or wait around and hope that their 4th favorite QB falls to them.

I am not pinning the last 20 years of QB ineptitude and frustration on Shanny/Allen but this is year 3 for them...theya re out of time to get cute with trade downs and waiting and risk having it backfire on them.

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SmootSmack

Ok, so then what if the only choice is Barkley. Not one of the other two?

More importantly, you said a key phrase "the #1 QB on their board" This is what's key. The #1 QB on their board may not be what the consensus #1 is.

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mbedner3420

I agree completely. I'm tired of treating the most important position on the field as the red-headed step child (no offense to John Beck personally). We need to take that position seriously this year, even if it means expending some picks to move up. Shanny and Allen have shown themselves more than capable of recuperating draft picks by trading down in other rounds, anyway. I think it's worth the price to get a Barkley or a Griffin.

SFREDSKIN

For the Shanahan's sake and the roster in place, there's a significant drop off. You want to bring in a QB with a pro style offense like Luck and Barkley. Those 2 would be a step or two ahead in the learning curve.

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mredskins

That is just it; this is the NFL every move is a risk. Luck could suck, RGIII could suck etc... you never know until they hit the field. There have been so many can't miss guys coming out of college that just fall flat on their face when it comes to game time. Just becasue the media say those are the best guys doesn't mean anything, the best people evaluating talent don't write weekly columns they work on NFL teams.

Remember when Ricky Williams was all the rage coming out of college; the media built him up so big that after that team drafted him they would be crowned Super Bowl champs. Yet when it was time for the actual draft with actual professional scouts drafting was Ricky Williams the first RB drafted?

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celts32

I would still probably want Barlkley because i think he's 3rd but i would be less mad if he were the one they passed on.

That is the key to me...I want them to get their #1 guy but i want them to be aggressive about getting it done. Problem with that is if it's not RG3 or Luck i will never know if they really did get their guy because they are going to say they did regardless. I have heard you mention Tannehill on here before. Is Tannehill really the #1 QB on their board or is he the guy they think they can get at a low enough pick and fill other holes also? If he's honestly #1 then i am fine with him, but if they are settling for Tannehill becasue they don't want to pay the price to move up for RG3 or Luck who they really want...then i am NOT okay with it at all.

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celts32

I agree with you...I am not listening to talking heads. What i have actually said is that I want them to be aggressive about getting the #1 QB on their draft board. That should be thier ONLY objective on day 1 of this draft...

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