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Old 12-18-2011, 06:45 PM   #46
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

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I'm sure its been said already, but;

Sure we won today and that puts us out of position from drafting a better QB, However, the teams that are in the QB race today either won or are winning their games (Miami W, Cleveland currently winning, Seattle W)
No. Simply not true.
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It greatens the gap between us and the Colts and is the difference between drafting 4th and 10th..Lots of places in between which other teams can trade up for to get their QB. I don't want us giving up future picks to get a franchise QB, but it looks like we might have to do that. Cleveland is looking like a good bet to draft in front of us now. They'll go for either Barkley or Griffin.
Your might be right Cult. I sure as hell do not want to give up picks to move up, however, I believe that both Barkley and Griffin are franchise guys. What we need more than anything is a franchise qb. I think we should trade up if that's what it is going to take to get one of that.
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

So @ this moment.... 1. Colts 2. Rams 3. Vikings 4. Bucs 5. Jaguars 6. Browns 7. Skins.

We are still in a decent spot draft wise currently. However, we have the chance to win the last two games and end up 7-9. Drafting 11-13th if we win the last two. Which will leave us in a not so great option for getting a top tier QB.

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So @ this moment.... 1. Colts 2. Vikings 3. Bucs 4. Jaguars 5. Browns 6. Skins
7. Panthers.

We are still in a decent spot draft wise currently. However, we have the chance to win the last two games and end up 7-9. Drafting 11-13th if we win the last two. Which will leave us in a not so great option for getting a top tier QB.

could always move up.. Hey I'd take 7-9
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If we win the last two it will make me feel much better about next season. I'm hoping we can get a decent QB option next year though. Grossman isn't going to fly for me next season.
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If we win the last two it will make me feel much better about next season. I'm hoping we can get a decent QB option next year though. Grossman isn't going to fly for me next season.
If the Redskins win the next 2 games (they just might) and are out of the running for the top 3 QB picks, then I would trade back and draft a CB, S, WR, whoever is the best player on the board, acquire a few more picks to get a QB and OL (G/C & T). They could also trade up for either Barkley or Griffin.
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So @ this moment.... 1. Colts 2. Vikings 3. Bucs 4. Jaguars 5. Browns 6. Skins
7. Panthers.

We are still in a decent spot draft wise currently. However, we have the chance to win the last two games and end up 7-9. Drafting 11-13th if we win the last two. Which will leave us in a not so great option for getting a top tier QB.
The Rams are gonna draft before us to
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The Rams are gonna draft before us to
There's little risk of the Rams picking a QB given their financial commitment to Sam Bradford.
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It greatens the gap between us and the Colts and is the difference between drafting 4th and 10th..Lots of places in between which other teams can trade up for to get their QB. I don't want us giving up future picks to get a franchise QB, but it looks like we might have to do that. Cleveland is looking like a good bet to draft in front of us now. They'll go for either Barkley or Griffin.
Cleveland definitely will take Barkley or Griffin. But I'm wondering if only one of them is left when Cleveland picks?
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The Rams are gonna draft before us to
True, I left them off the list somehow. So, the 7th pick as opposed to the 6th.

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So @ this moment.... 1. Colts 2. Rams 3. Vikings 4. Bucs 5. Jaguars 6. Browns 7. Skins.

We are still in a decent spot draft wise currently. However, we have the chance to win the last two games and end up 7-9. Drafting 11-13th if we win the last two. Which will leave us in a not so great option for getting a top tier QB.

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If we trade up, I hope the trade includes DHall.
We'll probably get less in return if we add Hall to the deal...


If we can't get one of the top qbs, either trade back and sign best available player or draft Blackmon and look for one of the second round qbs. Hoping we get Barkley or RGIII though.
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

The worst we can pick in the first round is 12th. That's at 7-9, and realistically, because Philly and Kansas City might both win again, could pick as high as 10th even with winning out.

We're really not talking much of a difference either way. 6th if we lose out, 11th or 12th if we win out, 8th or 9th if we win one, we're still looking at the same quarterback choices in that range. Might have to lose out to get Robert Griffin w/o, but the assumption that Griffin is even the target at this point is mere guessing.

The best of a strong senior class will be there whenever the Redskins choose.
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The worst we can pick in the first round is 12th. That's at 7-9, and realistically, because Philly and Kansas City might both win again, could pick as high as 10th even with winning out.

We're really not talking much of a difference either way. 6th if we lose out, 11th or 12th if we win out, 8th or 9th if we win one, we're still looking at the same quarterback choices in that range. Might have to lose out to get Robert Griffin w/o, but the assumption that Griffin is even the target at this point is mere guessing.

The best of a strong senior class will be there whenever the Redskins choose.
Thank you.

And if we choose to move up to get a guy, we will not have to move far.
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

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The worst we can pick in the first round is 12th. That's at 7-9, and realistically, because Philly and Kansas City might both win again, could pick as high as 10th even with winning out.

We're really not talking much of a difference either way. 6th if we lose out, 11th or 12th if we win out, 8th or 9th if we win one, we're still looking at the same quarterback choices in that range. Might have to lose out to get Robert Griffin w/o, but the assumption that Griffin is even the target at this point is mere guessing.

The best of a strong senior class will be there whenever the Redskins choose.
This makes the most sense to me. I, personally, would much rather see the Redskins win out, finish the season out strong, and be in line for virtually the same QBs as if they lost the next two games. Plus, they would end at 7-9, which is where most of us pegged them at the start of the season anyway. So, that means a good supporting cast to help the young rookie QB.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:11 PM   #60
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Has anyone calculated if the Colts beat the Jags if they still would have the first pick assuming that Minnisota or the rams or all three are 2-14. Because that could change the entire draft. If Minnasota gets the number one pick they will draft Luck, I would think. Same thing with the Rams. I would be all for trading to get Bradford, but not to interested in Ponder.
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