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Old 12-19-2011, 07:43 PM   #91
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

I give up on who the Redskins will draft until the season is over, if they win their next 2 games many things can change, even if they only beat the Vikings.
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Ugh that's seems a big stretch i.e. bad value at 10th overall. I guess in this scenario I hope we trade w/ the Jags...
In that scenario we traded with the Bills.
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I mean looking at the entire draft we need a QB worse than any other team picking in the top 10 (assuming Manning plays another couple/few years), if anyone should be trading up to get one of the top talents it should be us.
I agree, we have the biggest need at QB. We are the team that should be moving up. The way I see it, we need to come away with Luck, Barkley, or RG3. Period. And that order is also my order of preference.
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I agree, we have the biggest need at QB. We are the team that should be moving up. The way I see it, we need to come away with Luck, Barkley, or RG3. Period. And that order is also my order of preference.
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Ugh that's seems a big stretch i.e. bad value at 10th overall. I guess in this scenario I hope we trade w/ the Jags...
Truthishly, I'd have them taking one of those guys more in the 15-20 range. But I got lazy and didn't want to keep guessing picks
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:21 PM   #96
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Using Smoot's scenario as a jump off......and the idea of the Ram's trading Bradford...

If the Browns jump up to draft RGIII what would do you think it would take to get Colt McCoy (who's career production is on par if not better then Sam's Bradfords)?
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I dont see where some of u guys are coming up w these QB scenarios?? Lol rams trading Sam? No chance
Vikings trading ponder after half a season?? No chance and no to colt McCoy he sucks, small and avg arm, I'd rathe have Sanchez. As For Landry jones, I hope he stays at OU he needs it. I want Barkley or Luck obviously that's prob not gonna happen so RG or Tannenhill seems more likely
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Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

Last week I projected how the schedule would pan out for us and our draft prospects. Here is an update....

Indianapolis Colts 1-13
New England - Loss (L)
@Baltimore - Loss (L)
Tennessee - Loss (W)
Houston - Loss
@Jacksonville - Loss

Minnesota Vikings 2-12
Denver - Loss (L)
@Detroit - Loss (L)
New Orleans - Loss (L)
@Washington - Loss
Chicago - Loss

St. Louis Rams 2-12
San Francisco - Loss (L)
@Seattle - Loss (L)
Cincinnati - Loss (L)
@Pittsburgh - Loss
San Francisco - Loss

Carolina Panthers 6-8
@Tampa Bay - Loss (W)
Atlanta - Win (L)
@Houston - Loss (W)
Tampa Bay - Win
@New Orleans - Loss

Miami Dolphins 5-9
Oakland - Loss (W)
Philadelphia - Win (L)
@Buffalo - Win (W)
@New England - Loss
New York Jets - Loss

Jacksonville Jaguars 4-10
San Diego - Win (L)
Tampa Bay - Loss (W)
@Atlanta - Loss (L)
@Tennessee - Loss
Indianapolis - Win

Washington Redskins 5-9
New York Jets - Loss (L)
New England - Loss (L)
@New York Giants - Loss (W)
Minnesota - Win
@Philadelphia - Loss

2012 Projected Draft Order **Note: Draft order subject to change**
1. Indianapolis Colts 1-16
2. St. Louis Rams 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings 2-14
4. Cleveland Browns 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12
6. Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11
7. Miami Dolphins 5-11
8. Kansas City Chiefs 6-10
9. Washington Redskins 6-10
10. Carolina Panthers 6-10
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Last week I projected how the schedule would pan out for us and our draft prospects. Here is an update....

Indianapolis Colts 1-13
New England - Loss (L)
@Baltimore - Loss (L)
Tennessee - Loss (W)
Houston - Loss
@Jacksonville - Loss

Minnesota Vikings 2-12
Denver - Loss (L)
@Detroit - Loss (L)
New Orleans - Loss (L)
@Washington - Loss
Chicago - Loss

St. Louis Rams 2-12
San Francisco - Loss (L)
@Seattle - Loss (L)
Cincinnati - Loss (L)
@Pittsburgh - Loss
San Francisco - Loss

Carolina Panthers 6-8
@Tampa Bay - Loss (W)
Atlanta - Win (L)
@Houston - Loss (W)
Tampa Bay - Win
@New Orleans - Loss

Miami Dolphins 5-9
Oakland - Loss (W)
Philadelphia - Win (L)
@Buffalo - Win (W)
@New England - Loss
New York Jets - Loss

Jacksonville Jaguars 4-10
San Diego - Win (L)
Tampa Bay - Loss (W)
@Atlanta - Loss (L)
@Tennessee - Loss
Indianapolis - Win

Washington Redskins 5-9
New York Jets - Loss (L)
New England - Loss (L)
@New York Giants - Loss (W)
Minnesota - Win
@Philadelphia - Loss

2012 Projected Draft Order **Note: Draft order subject to change**
1. Indianapolis Colts 1-16
2. St. Louis Rams 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings 2-14
4. Cleveland Browns 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12
6. Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11
7. Miami Dolphins 5-11
8. Kansas City Chiefs 6-10
9. Washington Redskins 6-10
10. Carolina Panthers 6-10

Actually I say Indy goes 2-14 w STL, so I think the Rams would actually get the 1st pick right?
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Actually I say Indy goes 2-14 w STL, so I think the Rams would actually get the 1st pick right?
Do tied records go by head-to-head or strength of schedule? If it is head-to-head it would most definitely be St. Louis if that were to happen. But if it is S.O.S. then whoever has the lower strength would go first regardless of the heads up outcome.
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It's done by strength of schedule.
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I mean looking at the entire draft we need a QB worse than any other team picking in the top 10 (assuming Manning plays another couple/few years), if anyone should be trading up to get one of the top talents it should be us.
If anyone should be trading up, it should be us. But I don't know if anyone should be trading up, unless the Colts would be willing to deal for Luck. There really is no sure thing in the draft, and many of the smarter organizations (Pats, Steelers) therefore rarely trade up, especially in the first found.

If the Skins fall to 10th in the draft, they should draft Jones and sign Matt Flynn. Flynn is a free agent at the end of the year; he won a national championship in college, has tutored under Aaron Rodgers for four years, and would come pretty cheap. It would be smart to take a chance on him and have a top ten draft pick to back him up.
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I dont see where some of u guys are coming up w these QB scenarios?? Lol rams trading Sam? No chance
Vikings trading ponder after half a season?? No chance and no to colt McCoy he sucks, small and avg arm, I'd rathe have Sanchez. As For Landry jones, I hope he stays at OU he needs it. I want Barkley or Luck obviously that's prob not gonna happen so RG or Tannenhill seems more likely

That's what I can't figure out either? No way the Rams trade Bradford, because the QB position is not the problem in St. Louis. I would probably say the same thing for Minnesota. If anything, those two teams trade down. From what it looks like to me, the teams who are truly in search for a QB in the draft would of course be the Redskins, the Colts, possibly the Chiefs, and MAYBE Miami. Although I think Matt Moore has done a pretty decent job in Miami, so you can essentially cut them from the list of teams wanting to draft a QB. Yes, Cleveland, Minnesota, and St. Louis have had rough seasons, but they all have young QBs who are either rookies, or still in development (Sam Bradford) so I honestly can't see everything of them drafting another QB.

This is probably the only time I'd be willing to go along with the Redskins giving up some valuable picks to land the quarterback they want. Then again, I'm not quite sold on that idea, but with the way the rookie QBs have been in the past couple of drafts, I'm feeling more confident that those top QB draftees are the real deal. Certainly I don't think it's a stretch for the Redskins to land RG III or Barkley. I think they'd have to do some very strong willing and dealing to land Luck.
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No chance and no to colt McCoy he sucks, small and avg arm, I'd rathe have Sanchez.
If you think Colt McCoy sucks then why doesn't Sam Bradford suck too?

And why would you want Sanchez?

I don't follow.
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