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Old 12-20-2011, 10:38 AM   #106
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Last week I projected how the schedule would pan out for us and our draft prospects. Here is an update....

2012 Projected Draft Order **Note: Draft order subject to change**
1. Indianapolis Colts 1-16
2. St. Louis Rams 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings 2-14
4. Cleveland Browns 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12
6. Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11
7. Miami Dolphins 5-11
8. Kansas City Chiefs 6-10
9. Washington Redskins 6-10
10. Carolina Panthers 6-10
If this is how the final draft order pans out then I think we may be shut out from getting one of the top three QB's. First of all, the Colts will take Luck. Secondly, I don't have much confidence that that the Skins would be willing to pay the price to trade up to either the second or the third spot or that either St. Louis or Minnesota would trade out of those spots. Both of those teams could use either Blackmon or Kalil. Lastly, I can't imagine Barkley and RGIII lasting past Cleveland, Jacksonville, Miami, and KC.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:21 AM   #107
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Ok, I found a link that confirms that the only way that Luck fall from the Colts is if they loose out, they win the tie breakers. Here is a link that shows strength of schedule, the top 12 tems. Redskins included.

NFL Draft Derby: Colts’ win means Andrew Luck is suddenly back in play for Miami Dolphins | The Daily Dolphin

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Old 12-20-2011, 11:39 AM   #108
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If you think Colt McCoy sucks then why doesn't Sam Bradford suck too?

And why would you want Sanchez?

I don't follow.

Sam Bradford has all the tools to become a great NFL QB, Colt may not suck (I hate texas lol) But he's small and has an avg arm on top of that he isn't very accurate, Bradford had a good rookie year but that team is just trash around him just wait until he actually gets some help. As for Sanchez I just see too much Rex Grossman in him, makes very poor decisions in to many games and always holds on to the ball way too long in the pocket. NTM his career numbers are very very AVG with a lot of talent around him.

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Career rating - 74

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Sam Bradford has all the tools to become a great NFL QB, Colt may not suck (I hate texas lol) But he's small and has an avg arm on top of that he isn't very accurate, Bradford had a good rookie year but that team is just trash around him just wait until he actually gets some help. As for Sanchez I just see too much Rex Grossman in him, makes very poor decisions in to many games and always holds on to the ball way too long in the pocket. NTM his career numbers are very very AVG with a lot of talent around him.

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I know a lot of you guys don't like Sanchez, I do. Put him under Kyle's tutelage and you will see a different QB, Shottenheimer is not that good a coordinator, he's overrated.
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Last week I projected how the schedule would pan out for us and our draft prospects. Here is an update....

2012 Projected Draft Order **Note: Draft order subject to change**
1. Indianapolis Colts 1-16
2. St. Louis Rams 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings 2-14
4. Cleveland Browns 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12
6. Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11
7. Miami Dolphins 5-11
8. Kansas City Chiefs 6-10
9. Washington Redskins 6-10
10. Carolina Panthers 6-10
While this would present a 'worst case scenario' for many fans seeing that Indy, Cleveland and Miami are ahead of us in draft position, that simply would ensure we would trade up to #3 to get our guy. Really, our hope needs to be that the Rams secure the #1 pick and Indy falls down as far as #3. That will be really interesting because then Andrew Luck is still in play. Don't fully discount Bradford being available also if that's the case, especially if Spags gets fired as is rumored.

I'm not wholly convinced that Cleveland is going QB since they have a young QB and talent surrounding him so they may opt for Richardson or Blackmon instead of a QB. Miami likely will go QB but living down here, it is for the wrong reasons. They need a face of the franchise and someone to fill the void that still exists from Marino.
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If things stay as they are I see something like

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Blackmon
3. Vikings-Kalil
4. Dolphins (trade with Jaguars)-Barkley
5. Browns-RG III
6. Bucs-Quentin Coples
7. Bills (trade with Redskins)-Michael Floyd
8. Panthers-Morris Claiborne
9. Jaguars-Alshon Jeffery
10. Redskins-Landry Tannehill
Not happy...I want to be the one making that trade with jax to get RG3.
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Sam Bradford has all the tools to become a great NFL QB, Colt may not suck (I hate texas lol) But he's small and has an avg arm on top of that he isn't very accurate, Bradford had a good rookie year but that team is just trash around him just wait until he actually gets some help. As for Sanchez I just see too much Rex Grossman in him, makes very poor decisions in to many games and always holds on to the ball way too long in the pocket. NTM his career numbers are very very AVG with a lot of talent around him.

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Bradford was dealing with an ankle sprain and was struggling to get the ball to his running back at the line of scrimmage last time we saw him. Those aren't tools, those are liabilities.
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Not happy...I want to be the one making that trade with jax to get RG3.
I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB
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I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB
That kinda makes me sad.
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Bradford was dealing with an ankle sprain and was struggling to get the ball to his running back at the line of scrimmage last time we saw him. Those aren't tools, those are liabilities.

LOL ok well again we'll see
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Is it too much to ask for my skins to draft a ****ing QB in the top 10?
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I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB
I agree with you that if the skins are not in the top 5 and the big 3 QB's are gone that they would trade down, that makes the most sense. Now if they are in top 5 and one of the big 3 is there, I would pounce on any of them, whoever is available. Here's another scenario, how about if the big 3 are gone and Kalil falls in our laps? I would pick Kalil and trade Williams (don't trust him).
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I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB
Unless we address the QB position via trade or FA prior to the draft, I cannot see anything short of the big 3 at QB being our pick otherwise there will be an all out revolt among the fan base. While Shanny doesn't just do things based on that, he'd be foolish to expect otherwise.. I think we're at the crucial point where we have to make a bold move to secure the future at that position.
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I agree with you that if the skins are not in the top 5 and the big 3 QB's are gone that they would trade down, that makes the most sense. Now if they are in top 5 and one of the big 3 is there, I would pounce on any of them, whoever is available. Here's another scenario, how about if the big 3 are gone and Kalil falls in our laps? I would pick Kalil and trade Williams (don't trust him).

How about draft Kalil and move him or TW to RT and have the best Tackle duo in the NFL? Honestly QB is the way to go no doubt and if not I'd trade down and draft BPA then
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Unless we address the QB position via trade or FA prior to the draft, I cannot see anything short of the big 3 at QB being our pick otherwise there will be an all out revolt among the fan base. While Shanny doesn't just do things based on that, he'd be foolish to expect otherwise.. I think we're at the crucial point where we have to make a bold move to secure the future at that position.
Well I did bring up Colt McCoy several weeks back but I don't think he's necessarily coming here. He's just someone that could be available.

A lot of people talk about Flynn and Hoyer. I think the Seahawks are going to go hard after Flynn and Hoyer stays in NE.

There is someone else rumored, but I'll keep that name under wraps and regardless he wouldn't deter the Redskins from drafting a QB

And as for the QB, the big 3 we all know of isn't necessarily the Redskins big 3. Of course, whether some guys even come out will make a huge difference
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