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Old 12-30-2011, 11:18 AM   #256
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I don't think the guy was ever under center once in that game[He was]. If you gave me a choice of Luck, RGIII or Bradford. RGII would be my last choice and Bradford my first.
But even if Griff wasn't under center much what difference does it makes?
Bradford, the QB you point out as your top choice below, wasn't under center very much either.


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That is just my uneducated guess on him, just like yours, I am assuming that you are not a paid professional scout for a NFL organization. We are all arm chair QB's here.
No doubt.
We are all armchair scouts here.
But not being a paid scout for an NFL organization doesn't preclude me from having an educated opinion.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:36 AM   #257
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But even if Griff wasn't under center much what difference does it makes?
Bradford, the QB you point out as your top choice below, wasn't under center very much either.


No doubt.
We are all armchair scouts here.
But not being a paid scout for an NFL organization doesn't preclude me from having an educated opinion.

I picked Bradford over the other two becasue I have seen him be successful in the actual NFL, until RG III and Luck take a snap in a actual NFL game you don't know what you have in them.

Actual it does, you can have a opinion it is just not educated. If you walked into a scout's office in the NFL and said your opinion they probably laugh and send you on your way. Their opinions are educated ours are not.

It is fun to say what the Skins should do and not do, evaluate talent etc... but when the day is done none of us are experts. Unfortunately some of us on here a bit delusional to that fact, not singling you out 30Gut just saying.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:12 PM   #258
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I picked Bradford over the other two becasue I
have seen him be successful in the actual NFL, until RG III and Luck take a snap in a actual NFL game you don't know what you have in them.
The above scenario choosing between the 3 was your scenario not mine.

In your previous post you cited RGIII's limited reps (under center) as a negative.
But whether you dismiss it or not the QB that you chose as the best in your scenario wasn't under center much as a college QB.


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Actual it does, you can have a opinion it is just not educated.
You do understand the difference between an educated opinion and a professional opinion right?

I don't need to give my resume for people to know my opinions are educated.
People can read my opinions and decide for themselves.

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If you walked into a scout's office in the NFL and said your opinion they probably laugh and send you on your way.
Maybe so but maybe they would judge my opinion based on its content rather than an assumption about my background.

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Their opinions are educated ours are not
Their opinions are considered professional.
But the notion that only professional scouts can have educated opinions on football prospects is absurd.
Coaches on all levels have educated opinions on player evaluations.

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It is fun to say what the Skins should do and not do, evaluate talent etc... but when the day is done none of us are experts. Unfortunately some of us on here a bit delusional to that fact, not singling you out 30Gut just saying.
If you're uncomfortable being challenged on an opinion or statement it doesn't make me or anyone else out to be an expert.
I never give my thoughts as anything other then my opinion.
But, I will support my opinions and thoughts and challenge other peoples opinions and thoughts that I don't understand or question.

That doesn't make me delusional, i'm just a dude that's passionate about football.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:31 PM   #259
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The above scenario choosing between the 3 was your scenario not mine.

In your previous post you cited RGIII limited reps as a negative.
But whether you dismiss it or not the QB that you chose as the best in your scenario wasn't under center much as a college QB.


You do understand the difference between an educated opinion and a professional opinion right?

I don't need to give my resume for people to know my opinions are educated.
People can read my opinions and decide for themselves.

Maybe so but maybe they would judge my opinion based on its content rather than an assumption about my background.

Their opinions are considered professional.
But the notion that only professional scouts can have educated opinions on football prospects is absurd.
Coaches on all levels have educated opinions on player evaluations.

If you're uncomfortable being challenged on an opinion or statement it doesn't make me or anyone else out to be an expert.
I never give my thoughts as anything other then my opinion.
But, I will support my opinions and thoughts and challenge other peoples opinions and thoughts that I don't understand or question.

That doesn't make me delusional, i'm just a dude that's passionate about football.
All this and your avatar is John Beck.

Appreciate your feedback.

"To be a professional you must be educated in your profession." ~seems to make sense.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:50 PM   #260
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All this and your avatar is John Beck.

Appreciate your feedback.

"To be a professional you must be educated in your profession." ~seems to make sense.
Why do we have a John Beck avatar?
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:54 PM   #261
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We have a John Beck avatar, yet no Colt Brennan avatar??? I mean c'mon man!
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:54 PM   #262
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SIR.....Why, Pray tell do you harbor that confounded image of the....... huckster.....John Beck?
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:55 PM   #263
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We have a John Beck avatar, yet no Colt Brennan avatar??? I mean c'mon man!
One of the most legendary avatars on this board is dedicated to him.

Pineapple Jesus ring a bell?
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:25 PM   #264
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One of the most legendary avatars on this board is dedicated to him.

Pineapple Jesus ring a bell?
I was kidding, but picture wise of him we don't
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:12 PM   #265
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One of the most legendary avatars on this board is dedicated to him.

Pineapple Jesus ring a bell?
I think it only fair if we have a Pineapple Jesus avatar then we get on the ball with the Sexy Rexy logo avatar. I think Sumo can make some changes to get this a nice burgundy and gold.

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Old 12-30-2011, 04:34 PM   #266
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All this and your avatar is John Beck.

Appreciate your feedback.
So rather then.......I don't know........ discuss the QBs you wanna shift/change the topic and talk about my avatar?

And quibble over semantics:
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"To be a professional you must be educated in your profession." ~seems to make sense.
Funny, I never saw where I said I was a professional?

Anyway, good day.
I must not know what I'm talking about because I have John Beck as an avatar.
And I'm delusional for questioning your negative assessment of RGIII based completely off of 1 game where he actually played well?

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Total respect for you and your opinions on QBs...but you gotta take John Dalton Beck off your sig, because it's lowering your credibility on QBs
lol see what you started?
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I think it only fair if we have a Pineapple Jesus avatar then we get on the ball with the Sexy Rexy logo avatar. I think Sumo can make some changes to get this a nice burgundy and gold.

Rex already has an avatar, I think that's one too many as it is.
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Rex already has an avatar, I think that's one too many as it is.
But The Pineapple Jesus gets two? He's not even with the team anymore. I think you need to cut some slack here. You just know it would go over too well and everyone would have that as their avatar. With johnny5dickey being first in line....
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Landry seems on the rope's about leaving Ou word is after MB decided to stay at USC, Jones is leaning towards the draft we'll see soon I guess. That's good news to my man lotus
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Ugh, this Landry Jones thing is really tough. His best choice might be to declare for the draft and just try to Mallett his way to the top.
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