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Old 12-23-2011, 10:40 AM   #106
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Well you never know maybe there's some QB out there no one is thinking of that may suddenly become available

That said, I've felt for a while we probably weren't going QB in the top 10 anyway.

I kind of wish it was April already

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I guessing you are referring to Peyton Manning. According to another insider, that's the word from a higher up that at this point that if he did come available, they would get into the running.
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I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I guessing you are referring to Peyton Manning. According to another insider, that's the word from a higher up that at this point that if he did come available, they would get into the running.
Another insider? Here? Only people I've told are the moderators.
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Another insider? Here? Only people I've told are the moderators.
No. Not here. On another forum. One of three guys on another site that give out pretty much identical info to you at times. There are 4 guys that I know of that have insider type info and you are one of them. Probably some of the same connections.

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A few days ago I received some information from a high up source in the organization that stated " Should Peyton Manning become available we would plan to be a player". Naturally at the time of hearing this it looked like Reg,Luck,Barkley would all be available so it was a head scratcher but as things are playing out it doesn't look so far fetched. Everyday that passes it looks like the "strongest QB class since Elway,Marino" is being diluted to Andrew Luck and guys that need time to develop. What does that mean for the Redskins who find themselves drafting in the top 10 and in need of a franchise guy ? Trade it all for Luck ? Trade it all for Bradford? In a few weeks we will know who sits in the number 1 spot come draft day and if its the colts then march is setting up to be a tell that Indy might not be able to avoid in regards to Manning/Luck. The Colts have to either pay or move on from Peyton in march with his 28 million dollar bonus due and with Luck/Peyton having the same agent it only clouds the situation more and nobody is looking for Manning to renegotiate. Archie Manning, yes the same Manning who was the architect of Eli to the giants has already came out and said he didn't feel Luck/Peyton could play together in Indianapolis. I cant see Indy with their cap situation keeping Manning and drafting Luck regardless of what/who they try to restructure and see it as a very real possibility Peyton if not traded by march is released.

Everyone knows Mike is in year two of a five year contract and cant afford to go into next season with the QB situation as is and the QB market looks slim with the like of Flynn,Smith, and Young. You bring in Peyton Manning as a Free Agent and draft a QB the team likes but needs time to develop in Ryan Tannehill. Peyton is perceived to have a good 2-3 years left in him if he is healthy from his neck injury and while its a gamble its a wise one if you draft a young QB to groom that can be had by trading back a bit in the draft. I don't think Mike plans on really hitching 4 years to Rex Grossman and what better guy to help develop a QB than Manning.

I'm still digging and trying to find out more information but considering where i heard the manning info from i have to give it validity. The other possibility is that the smoke screen has started early but usually the source isn't going to get involved in smoke screens this early so I'm taking it for what it is right now. Yes, i also laughed and stepped on this idea a few weeks ago and i am also not saying it will without a doubt happen.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:58 AM   #109
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No. Not here. On another forum. One of three guys on another site that give out pretty much identical info to you at times. There are 4 guys that I know of that have insider type info and you are one of them. Probably some of the same connections.
I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

I dropped the clue right in here http://www.thewarpath.net/869792-post110.html (Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV))

Anyway, it was more of a "Clausen might be available this offseason for cheap, maybe even for nothing. He could be a good choice to bring in"

But from doing a bit more gathering, it seems like that would be more of a due diligence "how can you not at least consider the option, especially if it costs us nothing" move

But I'll keep the other name quiet a little longer. It would be potentially be a franchise altering move.
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I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

I dropped the clue right in here http://www.thewarpath.net/869792-post110.html (Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV))

Anyway, it was more of a "Clausen might be available this offseason for cheap, maybe even for nothing. He could be a good choice to bring in"

But from doing a bit more gathering, it seems like that would be more of a due diligence "how can you not at least consider the option, especially if it costs us nothing" move

But I'll keep the other name quiet a little longer. It would be potentially be a franchise altering move.
thanks for insight SS. Clausen would be a cheap, little risk move. Wouldnt be against it.

If you say "franchise altering" I imagine the type of QB would be an established, franchise QB. Is that right?
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I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

That insider said that it (the intel) was based off the fact that if both RGIII and Barkley stayed in school, which appears to be the case. I quoted him directly to the info he got on the Peyton thing. They bring in PM as a FA, and draft somebody like Tannehill.


Clausen? Meh.... I want to say couldn't be worse than Beck, but then realized it probably could be.
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thanks for insight SS. Clausen would be a cheap, little risk move. Wouldnt be against it.

If you say "franchise altering" I imagine the type of QB would be an established, franchise QB. Is that right?
Well, "franchise altering" in that he probably wouldn't be a cheap acquisition.
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That insider said that it (the intel) was based off the fact that if both RGIII and Barkley stayed in school, which appears to be the case. I quoted him directly to the info he got on the Peyton thing. They bring in PM as a FA, and draft somebody like Tannehill.


Clausen? Meh.... I want to say could it be worse than Beck, but then realized it probably could be.
Ha! Someone else is also now suggesting Tannehill? As for RGIII I was certain in October he was staying, then around Thanksgiving I heard otherwise. It just keeps going back and forth with him. I really have no idea anymore if he's staying or not.

I don't think anyone could be worse than Beck

I think I said the guy I'm talking about is young (not Young, just young) so I don't believe Manning fits that mold
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Well, "franchise altering" in that he probably wouldn't be a cheap acquisition.
I'm still trying to figure which idiot franchise would get rid of their franchise QB?? Did Vinny get hired on as GM somewhere? They most likely have tons of faith in their backup or whoever they plan to draft to replace that person.
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I would give Clausen a try, I've suggested this in the past, also Brady Quinn. They can't be worse than Beck and have shown some flashes, I think with the right coaching they could be better like Alex Smith.
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I would give Clausen a try, I've suggested this in the past, also Brady Quinn. They can't be worse than Beck and have shown some flashes, I think with the right coaching they could be better like Alex Smith.
I'm curious what will happen with Quinn. He had a good summer and seems to have maybe restored his reputation a bit.
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Ha! Someone else is also now suggesting Tannehill? As for RGIII I was certain in October he was staying, then around Thanksgiving I heard otherwise. It just keeps going back and forth with him. I really have no idea anymore if he's staying or not.

I don't think anyone could be worse than Beck

I think I said the guy I'm talking about is young (not Young, just young) so I don't believe Manning fits that mold
Cutler or Freeman would be my guess...my wishful thinking guess would be Rivers, Id give multiple 1sts for him. I would only think Norv would have to go in order for that to happen. I really hope its not Sanchise or Fitzpatrick
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Cutler or Freeman would be my guess...my wishful thinking guess would be Rivers, Id give multiple 1sts for him. I would only think Norv would have to go in order for that to happen. I really hope its not Sanchise or Fitzpatrick
I'll say it again, I would take Sanchez in a heartbeat, with the right coaching he could turn out to be what has been expected all along.
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Theres no way I want to break the bank for an existing QB with a few years on him.
I'd rather start fresh on the draft.
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Theres no way I want to break the bank for an existing QB with a few years on him.
I'd rather start fresh on the draft.
If you are referencing the Manning rumor, I just want to point out that the insider said if this was on condition of the following:


1) Indy cut Peyton and he become a FA
2) RGIII and Barkley didn't declare


Not sure you would be breaking the bank on Manning as a Free Agent really, and give him just enough contract years to groom a QB you choose to draft during that time. I would be fine with this scenario as long as it didn't mean us giving draft picks.


Now not sure about the rumor Smoot is talking about in regards to "franchise altering", but he did mention that the QB was young so I would gather he had more than just a "few" years left.
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