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Old 12-29-2011, 03:39 PM   #16
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

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In my opinion, Trent Williams is a average LT. He has had some good games here and there. I just believe that Smith has outperformed him against some really tough competition. This makes TW expendable in my book.
Really? So our undrafted rookie off the street is already outperforming the #4 overall pick?? We must be really good evaluators of street talent or really bad drafters.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:35 PM   #17
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

Sorry pal, you don't just go trading LTs in this league unless you have a Chris Samuels in his prime waiting in the wings. You feel me?
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:45 PM   #18
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

1) Trades like this rarely happen in the NFL. 2) Why would you trade TW, who you acquired using the 4th overall pick, for a couple of mid-day picks?? 3) This thread is retarded and I can't believe it has been given serious consideration for worthwhile discussion.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:07 PM   #19
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

I would trade Orakpo if it was part of the package to help land a franchise QB. I think he is one of the few players we have that has high value and may even be a little over rated. not looking to move him but for a QB I would.

As for TW his value could not be lower after his suspension. And I completely disagree with the stance that he is an average LT. I think he was taking some strides towards being a very good LT this year. I do not want to trade him at all.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:08 PM   #20
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

Willie Smith is not the same caliber as TW. He is easier to beat than TW is to beat nor is he the stalwart in the run blocking department TW is.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:18 PM   #21
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

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Really? So our undrafted rookie off the street is already outperforming the #4 overall pick?? We must be really good evaluators of street talent or really bad drafters.
Nah, pot makes you less a skilled player, objective measurables(what you see on tape) be damned. Intuition reigns supreme(even though Manley and Lawrence Taylor beg to differ about drugs affecting ON-FIELD PERFORMANCE).
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:21 PM   #22
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

Yes, I would consider doing this.

However, both Williams and Orakpo are cornerstone players on this team, and I would expect at least a 2012 first round pick in return for just one of them. For both of them, we'd have to be getting something special.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:25 PM   #23
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

Orakpo is the better trade of the two because:

1) He'll be 26 next season
2) We're already woefully short on elite offensive talent
3) He's getting close to free agency

Again though, you wouldn't trade Orakpo for anything below a first round pick, so this discussion is moot anyway.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:33 PM   #24
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

No, this is silly. You don't trade your young talented players for picks. Some of us are so "pick" crazy. Hell, we just used picks to get these guys!! So the next young thing is better than two players who have a couple of years in our system and are core components of our building process? C'mon.

As for the notion that Smith has outplayed Williams, not really even close. The problem is that some of you/us expect Williams to be a perfect, flawless instant Hall of Famer and he's not. Maybe we can give him the equivalent of 2 whole seasons before we are ready to ship him off somewhere. Sure the drug thing was extremely moronic but if he stays clean he's a cornerstone of our rebuilding process.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:39 PM   #25
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

I think TW is being underestimated, but I also don't know where people are getting the impression we'd move either for just any picks
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

I know the offseason is fast approaching when the madden trade schemes are own the rise.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:50 PM   #27
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I know a lot of people love Orakpo and probably think I'm crazy for suggesting we trade him. I like the guy a lot too, but it's obvious that he doesn't fit the 3-4 as well as he fits the 4-3. His production has decline each year mainly because he's playing out of position. He's more a 4-3 de than a 3-4 olb. I would consider trading him to move up and acquire a higher pick or more picks. Right now, he has a lot of value.

In my opinion, Trent Williams is a average LT. He has had some good games here and there. I just believe that Smith has outperformed him against some really tough competition. This makes TW expendable in my book. If we can trade him and get some picks or use him as bait to move up in the draft I would be all for it.

What do you think?
My first reaction is no way, but giving it some thought, I would consider trading Williams. I know good offensive linemen are very difficult to find, but in Trent's case, I believe he is overpriced. We pay him considerably more than his worth as a player. It might be worth considering if you could make a good deal, but no way I give him up for just a third round pick. Pot smoking aside, he's worth more than that. That said, the Redskins could make better use of his huge salary cap chunk than the value we receive from his play now. Maybe we could find a taker and speed up the rebuilding process if we get a good deal.

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Old 12-29-2011, 06:01 PM   #28
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unless we are getting a franchise qb or luck in return for one of the two. Trading both for just picks is retarded.
retarded!!!!!
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This. So much this.
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?

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Orakpo, maybe a first definitely a second and either another second or a third.

Williams, pre-pot a 2nd and 4th, post-pot 3rd.
You're crazy. The asking price for a franchise LT has been set as a late first round pick. As seen in the Jason Peters trade.
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