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Old 12-31-2011, 05:15 PM   #16
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

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Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider. I think this stuff about focusing on one guy as our savior is a big mistake. An even bigger one is giving up draft picks for a guy who may be a bust in the NFL, and that goes for any QB prospect, including Luck. We are very lean depthwise on defense and linemen. Giving up picks to fill those needs is dumb. Luck or RG III or whomever we land is going to suck if our line isn't upgraded.
I feel you Gus' but, the depth of quality QBs in any draft, in any round is scarce. Luck, RGIII, Jones, or Tannehill may not even turn out to be the QB-star of the draft. So, in my oinion it's not worth giving up too much to get any one player. Sure, if the Skins nee to manuver up with their second pick or down with their first pick that's understandable
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:00 PM   #17
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Just saw on ESPN ticker RG III to come out. SORRY NO LINK
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:13 PM   #18
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RG III's mom aka 30Gut must be overwhelmed with joy.
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:38 PM   #20
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

very good news.
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:45 PM   #21
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But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.
What makes you think that we would have to change our scheme to fit his skill set? He he's smart, mobile, and accurate with short, intermediate, and deep passes. What exactly would we have to change?
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:21 PM   #22
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

I think the redskins are in good shape to draft RGIII if he comes out.they will pick #6 and other than Luck going #1 to colts,the other teams ahead of us don't need a QB.
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I think the redskins are in good shape to draft RGIII if he comes out.they will pick #6 and other than Luck going #1 to colts,the other teams ahead of us don't need a QB.
Please remember other teams can trade up and the browns might be looking for a QB.
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:08 PM   #24
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

I am going to respond to this as I did with the Luck thread. We are in no position to give up picks to move up 10 spots to get RG III. Say you did get RG III, but the D is still suspect and suffers from lack of depth at the LB and DB positions. Also, our line isn't the best either. Want to keep your wonderboy healthy? Put a solid line behind him! Like I said before, too many potential starting QB coming out of this draft to focus in on one guy. Keep the picks, we still will get a great QB.
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I am going to respond to this as I did with the Luck thread. We are in no position to give up picks to move up 10 spots to get RG III. Say you did get RG III, but the D is still suspect and suffers from lack of depth at the LB and DB positions. Also, our line isn't the best either. Want to keep your wonderboy healthy? Put a solid line behind him! Like I said before, too many potential starting QB coming out of this draft to focus in on one guy. Keep the picks, we still will get a great QB.
who besides luck and RG3 are even 1st round qbs? i doubt landry jones comes out since he sucked to end the season, and even if he did i dont think hes all that great. tannehill? does not wow whatsoever. foles? he could be a good guy to develop, but i dont see the depth that you keep mentioning. barkley staying in school really hurt this qb class.
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who besides luck and RG3 are even 1st round qbs? i doubt landry jones comes out since he sucked to end the season, and even if he did i dont think hes all that great. tannehill? does not wow whatsoever. foles? he could be a good guy to develop, but i dont see the depth that you keep mentioning. barkley staying in school really hurt this qb class.
I agree. Not very excited about any qbs in this draft. Flynn and Sanchez may be our best bets
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I think we should trade up to get griffin because the other QB's we have questions marks with (Foles, Tannehill, Jones) and I know we wouldn't just draft Kellen moore and stay sold on him alone (I would).
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But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.
This right here says it all. I think RG III goes to a team that brings in a new offensive system at the same time, and one with a head coach/offensive coordinator who's willing to build that new offense around RG III's strengths. I don't think you have that in Washington.
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who besides luck and RG3 are even 1st round qbs? i doubt landry jones comes out since he sucked to end the season, and even if he did i dont think hes all that great. tannehill? does not wow whatsoever. foles? he could be a good guy to develop, but i dont see the depth that you keep mentioning. barkley staying in school really hurt this qb class.
Landry Jones is declaring. Tannehill could also be a late first/early 2nd round pick and there have been whispers Redskins are interested in him.
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I am going to respond to this as I did with the Luck thread. We are in no position to give up picks to move up 10 spots to get RG III. Say you did get RG III, but the D is still suspect and suffers from lack of depth at the LB and DB positions. Also, our line isn't the best either. Want to keep your wonderboy healthy? Put a solid line behind him! Like I said before, too many potential starting QB coming out of this draft to focus in on one guy. Keep the picks, we still will get a great QB.
Math is your friend. We have the #6 pick, the highest we would need to get to is #2, that's 4 picks.

Also, why would you put a line behind the QB? Is this a new offense I'm unfamiliar with?

Ok, done messing with you.

That being said, I think you are forgetting about free agency. We can address 3 key positions in free agency-RT, WR, CB and still be flexible enough to make a move in the draft if we need to.

Realistically, the price will be similar to what the Giants gave up for Manning. Swap 1sts, send an additional 2nd and 4th plus next year 1st and 5th. Is it a lot? Sure it is. Is it worth it if he solves the QB position for the next decade? You bet your ass it is..

Here's the thing with the 'we can't afford to give up picks' argument. It doesn't matter how many picks you have or really where it is in the draft. It matters what you do with them. We saw Vinny squander 10 picks in 2008 that crippled this team. That should have been a foundation for the next 8 years, instead we have a tight end who is a joint away from a year suspension and that's it! Over the past 2 years we've picked 18 players and 12 will likely be contributing to the team for years. Because of that, we don't need a full draft class to come in and play, we can afford to make a move for a position of need.
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