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Old 01-03-2012, 09:46 PM   #46
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To try to put this back on track, he missed on:

-Donovan McNabb
-Larry Johnson
-O.J. Atogwe
-Mike Williams (this was just bizarre)
-Artis Hicks
-Jammal Brown
-Ma'ake Kemoeatu
-Joey Galloway
-Roydell Williams
-Rocky McIntosh
-Santana Moss
-John Beck

With the criteria that they must have signed for and underperformed (which is typically relative) for the current regime, that's a pretty exhaustive list. The questionable releases list is about 2/3rds that long.
most of those guys were vet mins, which fail/wash out pretty consistently, and I also don't know how moss made that list. mcnabb and beck are obviously awful, and atogwe can't stay healthy (and hasn't played great either compared to his contract). I don't see a reason to ever pay safeties or RBs big money though unless they're like AP or sean taylor.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:27 PM   #47
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most of those guys were vet mins, which fail/wash out pretty consistently, and I also don't know how moss made that list. mcnabb and beck are obviously awful, and atogwe can't stay healthy (and hasn't played great either compared to his contract). I don't see a reason to ever pay safeties or RBs big money though unless they're like AP or sean taylor.
Well, if you throw out the vet mins in Galloway, Williams, and McIntosh, that's still a pretty significant list. The reason I listed Galloway, Williams, and McIntosh but not Willie Parker is because Parker didn't make the roster, so like Bobby Wade or Mike Furrey, he's a meaningless signing. No harm done.

Moss is there because he got a new contract, then didn't have a very good year. Obviously the injury hurt. But not catching half the balls that come your way when you don't go deep anymore is not what you're looking for.
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:12 AM   #48
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Well, if you throw out the vet mins in Galloway, Williams, and McIntosh, that's still a pretty significant list. The reason I listed Galloway, Williams, and McIntosh but not Willie Parker is because Parker didn't make the roster, so like Bobby Wade or Mike Furrey, he's a meaningless signing. No harm done.

Moss is there because he got a new contract, then didn't have a very good year. Obviously the injury hurt. But not catching half the balls that come your way when you don't go deep anymore is not what you're looking for.
did we turn down better bodies for all those 1mill and under guys though? cause everyone knew galloway sucked, but we didn't have much here to replace him with. If you're saying we should have, well, I guess I'd have to agree, but I can't remember now who was there they we could have gotten and didn't (and knew about at that time, not 2 years and a surprise pro bowl year later).

I definitely remember this last offseason thinking we were a QB and 3 OL short of where we needed to be. moss was a disappointment for sure, but at the time I though gaffney was a great and super cheap addition (an 800 yard type guy).

btw, landry's already delayed surgery a month longer than he should have. the whole "I don't need surgery" thing is NOT making me happy.
that also makes the decision on him harder.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:43 PM   #49
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did we turn down better bodies for all those 1mill and under guys though? cause everyone knew galloway sucked, but we didn't have much here to replace him with. If you're saying we should have, well, I guess I'd have to agree, but I can't remember now who was there they we could have gotten and didn't (and knew about at that time, not 2 years and a surprise pro bowl year later).

I definitely remember this last offseason thinking we were a QB and 3 OL short of where we needed to be. moss was a disappointment for sure, but at the time I though gaffney was a great and super cheap addition (an 800 yard type guy).

btw, landry's already delayed surgery a month longer than he should have. the whole "I don't need surgery" thing is NOT making me happy.
that also makes the decision on him harder.
I would love to know what the rationale is behind this.....
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:00 PM   #50
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^ Yeah what the F is up with that?
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He wanted other opinions.
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He wanted other opinions.
Still, what more does he need to hear? He didn't have surgery this past offseason, and look how it worked out for him. Get it fixed ASAP, bite the bullet and do your rehab, come back 100%. He's a knucklehead.
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Easy for us to say.
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By not making a move, is he not flirting with not playing next season or at least a shortened season if he should need surgery?
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btw, landry's already delayed surgery a month longer than he should have. the whole "I don't need surgery" thing is NOT making me happy.
that also makes the decision on him harder.
SMH.
He needs to have the surgery.
Stop lifting like a body builder; work on core strength, speed and agility.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:49 PM   #57
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

I've been on the RG3 bandwagon, so I would be in favor of trading up to the #2 pick, even if that meant trading this year's #1 and #2, and next year's #1. The QB talent dropoff after Luck and Griffin is steep.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:13 PM   #58
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Re: What is RG3 worth to us?

I know Smoot had alluded to this earlier, but let's send our 2012 1st, Orakpo and 2013 2nd for the Rams #2.
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:50 PM   #59
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I am sure it has already been talked about, but the Browns a expected to move up to take RG3
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Easy for us to say.
true, but we aren't the ones who will be missing out on millions of dollars either.
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