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Old 01-10-2012, 01:25 PM   #391
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Not exactly your character guy you look for considering Alshon, Blackmon (well he has one charge on him from his 4 years of college), Kendall Wright are better people and players IMO.

If Blackmon is available then I'd say take that WR over Floyd but I think Blackmon will be gone. I presume you issue is his character but I'd challenge by asking did you have the same issue's with Taylor when he was still alive? spitting on opponants and getting a DUI? How about TW and Davis? should we trade them away?

Young men will be young men. They make mistakes/poor choices. If Big Ben was available would you be against the team trying to get him? with all his transgressions? Sometimes the character police need to look the other way. sometimes.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:30 PM   #392
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The big question is what type of QB are MS and KS looking for? We fans can all day say Luck is the perfect QB... the best of the best coming out. But he might not have something our coaches are looking for. Same with RGIII. RGIII is probably a great QB for a team who will be looking to expect the QB to make some runs similar to what the Panthers are doing with Newton. Will KS work with that? call plays just for that?

Fans here screamed for Beck because he was more mobile and honestly I didn't see KS calling plays that would benifit that. It seemed like KS wanted a QB to sit in the pocket, roll out when he wanted the QB to roll out. All I'm saying is the top two might not be the QB our coaches are even looking at.
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The big question is what type of QB are MS and KS looking for? We fans can all day say Luck is the perfect QB... the best of the best coming out. But he might not have something our coaches are looking for. Same with RGIII. RGIII is probably a great QB for a team who will be looking to expect the QB to make some runs similar to what the Panthers are doing with Newton. Will KS work with that? call plays just for that?

Fans here screamed for Beck because he was more mobile and honestly I didn't see KS calling plays that would benifit that. It seemed like KS wanted a QB to sit in the pocket, roll out when he wanted the QB to roll out. All I'm saying is the top two might not be the QB our coaches are even looking at.
The Shanahan's decision-making with the QB position has been terrible during their time here in DC. They are already a year behind in rebuilding (McNabb set this organization back a year) and I am afraid this offseason they are going to do what they should have done last offseason (pick up a second round QB or later). Unless there is a tremendous red flag, I really wish they would go after RG3. Maybe they can find the next Andy Dalton between Tannenhill or Foles, but I don't know if that lighting can strike twice. Let's just hope that Flynn turns out to be the next Schaub and not the next Kolb/Whitehurst.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:38 PM   #394
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Thanks for a bit of info there NC. Had no idea that he was rethinking his decision.
I think even he didn't even know what he was going to do.


2012 NFL draft -- QB Robert Griffin III telling Baylor Bears he's going pro - ESPN


Looks like it's back to going pro.
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Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III top our first 2012 NFL mock draft - Andrew Perloff - SI.com

Look at this mock draft.

I swear to fawking god if we waste another top ten first round pick on the secondary I will scream.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:39 PM   #396
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Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III top our first 2012 NFL mock draft - Andrew Perloff - SI.com

Look at this mock draft.

I swear to fawking god if we waste another top ten first round pick on the secondary I will scream.
LOL and it's not even the first safety in the draft!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:47 PM   #397
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Re: And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........

From what I'm reading the Browns GM loves collecting draft picks. In the meantime if the Rams hire Fischer then that will only open a line of communication for the Skins to move up. Shanahan also has shown in the past that he's willing to move up to take the right QB. And I think it was Smoot that said the Skins like RG3 more then Luck.

As nice as it is to get draft picks we have to consider that we will be much better off getting a viable QB prospect then saying drafting a mediocre QB prospect and someone like Jarvis Jenkins.

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Old 01-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #398
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And I think it was Smoot that said the Skins like RG3 more then Luck.

Smoot is not the one that said that, it was another insider I scan from time to time on another forum. I'm not sure Smoot agrees with it though based on intel he's received though. (or that would be my assumption) I personally find it hard to believe myself, but I don't study game film like they do.
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I've never heard that they like RG3 more than Luck
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I've never heard that they like RG3 more than Luck
Maybe you should listen harder.
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I'm with you. I'm sick of wasting picks on the secondary. Way back when we lost Smoot to the Vikes, and had to draft Carlos. I know he was wanting out, but if we had treated him right, he would have stayed. Now we let Carlos go, and are needing CB help. Please, anything but secondary help.
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Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III top our first 2012 NFL mock draft - Andrew Perloff - SI.com

Look at this mock draft.

I swear to fawking god if we waste another top ten first round pick on the secondary I will scream.


That dude isn't even That great horrible mock draft.. Landry was a way better prospect
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:13 PM   #403
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we definitely do need secondary. as of right now gomes is the only guy with any real stating potential as a young player. i dont believe in kevin barnes. wilson and d hall are marginal starters at corner at best. if we can keep landry and keep atogwe healthy, i think we will be ok there. kirkpatrick is a beast at cornerback, its not a terrible pick, however we REALLY need a qb. QB first, then either a wide receiver/cornerback.
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Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III top our first 2012 NFL mock draft - Andrew Perloff - SI.com

Look at this mock draft.

I swear to fawking god if we waste another top ten first round pick on the secondary I will scream.
One thing to point out...

If we could somehow maneuver a trade with Cincy... I'd be all for it.

According to this mock, the Skins could get any combination of these guys at #17 & #21:

WR Michael Floyd, CB Stephon Gilmore, CB Janoris Jenkins, LB Dont'a Hightower, TE Dwayne Allen, WR Mohamed Sandu, G Kelechi Osemele, CB Jayron Hosley

I mean... if we can't beat the Browns to RGIII, with this situation you can grab Floyd & Gilmore or Jenkins to fill WR & CB holes and go after Foles / Osweiler / Weeden / Moore in the 2nd and/or later?? Not bad at all in my eyes...

If this year proved anything... getting Kerrigan, Hankerson and Helu for trading back from #10... collecting a BUNCH of young talent is exactly what we need.
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One thing to point out...

If we could somehow maneuver a trade with Cincy... I'd be all for it.

According to this mock, the Skins could get any combination of these guys at #17 & #21:

WR Michael Floyd, CB Stephon Gilmore, CB Janoris Jenkins, LB Dont'a Hightower, TE Dwayne Allen, WR Mohamed Sandu, G Kelechi Osemele, CB Jayron Hosley

I mean... if we can't beat the Browns to RGIII, with this situation you can grab Floyd & Gilmore or Jenkins to fill WR & CB holes and go after Foles / Osweiler / Weeden / Moore in the 2nd and/or later?? Not bad at all in my eyes...

If this year proved anything... getting Kerrigan, Hankerson and Helu for trading back from #10... collecting a BUNCH of young talent is exactly what we need.
if we cant get luck or RG3, then trading down could be the best option.
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