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Old 01-11-2012, 10:21 AM   #421
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FYI my local sports talk radio reported yesterday that Flynn is headed to Cleveland in some kind of sign and trade deal for three of the Browns draft picks.

Flynn is a unrestricted free agent. There would only be a signing, no picks involved.


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Old 01-11-2012, 10:26 AM   #422
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Flynn is a unrestricted free agent. There would only be a signing, no picks involved.


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They could franchise him I suppose
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:27 AM   #423
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They could franchise him I suppose
I thought I hear-tell that they were franchising Finley?
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:39 AM   #424
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There's talk the Packers will use the franchise tag on Flynn and then trade him, probably not a bad idea.
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:40 AM   #425
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There's talk the Packers will use the franchise tag on Flynn and then trade him, probably not a bad idea.
if thats the case, then i really hope we dont get flynn...
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:41 AM   #426
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OK, for the moment, let's assume that GB tags Flynn and then trades him to Cleveland for several draft picks. That would put us in position to land RGIII but I think we would be wise to still try to trade up to get ahead of Tampa.

With a new HC in Tampa, I wouldn't trust that they would not take RGIII. I feel that Cleveland wouldn't need to give up the #4 pick to get Flynn but hey would still like to recoup a pick or two by trading down with the Skins.

The one problem I can foresee with this scenario is if Cleveland wants Richardson and they are afraid that Tampa might draft him. In that case, they would need to stay where they are.

BTW, in my mind, Luck, Kalil, and Blackmon are locks to go in the top three picks. I think that RGIII is going to be taken 4th by somebody. I can't imagine RGIII going any lower than 6th.

My "small miacle" draft scenario:

1. IND - Luck
2. STL - Kalil
3. MIN - Blackmon
4. CLE - Richardson
5. TAM - Claiborne
6. WAS - RGIII
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #427
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They could franchise him I suppose

I don't think they have the cap room, and wouldn't that guarantee him the average of the top 5 paid QBs in the league? They still have to sign Finley. Stranger things have happened really so we'll have to wait and see.
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Stop man, Cleveland isn't stupid. They'll succumb to the mock drafts, the media, the hype and draft RG3. They're more likely to stick with Colt, than sign/trade for Flynn.. Let's be realistic.

Washington has NO chance at drafting RG3 at 6. Absolutely NO chance.
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I don't think they have the cap room, and wouldn't that guarantee him the average of the top 5 paid QBs in the league? They still have to sign Finley. Stranger things have happened really so we'll have to wait and see.
Do the Packers need to be under the cap at all times or do they just need to be under the cap on a certain date?

Also, if they were to tag and then trade Flynn then couldn't they tag Finley after Flynn is traded?

I don't know the answers to those questions. I'm simply asking anyone who does to educate me on the rules.
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OK, for the moment, let's assume that GB tags Flynn and then trades him to Cleveland for several draft picks. That would put us in position to land RGIII but I think we would be wise to still try to trade up to get ahead of Tampa.

With a new HC in Tampa, I wouldn't trust that they would not take RGIII. I feel that Cleveland wouldn't need to give up the #4 pick to get Flynn but hey would still like to recoup a pick or two by trading down with the Skins.

The one problem I can foresee with this scenario is if Cleveland wants Richardson and they are afraid that Tampa might draft him. In that case, they would need to stay where they are.

BTW, in my mind, Luck, Kalil, and Blackmon are locks to go in the top three picks. I think that RGIII is going to be taken 4th by somebody. I can't imagine RGIII going any lower than 6th.

My "small miacle" draft scenario:

1. IND - Luck
2. STL - Kalil
3. MIN - Blackmon
4. CLE - Richardson
5. TAM - Claiborne
6. WAS - RGIII
That would be sweet! I can see Holmgren wanting Flynn, because of the system, and cold weather similarities with Green Bay, and he and/or Green Bay may prefer playing in the AFC vs. playing against his old team. Plus, he had a pretty good experience with another former Green Bay back-up in Hasselback.
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Stop man, Cleveland isn't stupid. They'll succumb to the mock drafts, the media, the hype and draft RG3. They're more likely to stick with Colt, than sign/trade for Flynn.. Let's be realistic.

Washington has NO chance at drafting RG3 at 6. Absolutely NO chance.
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That would be sweet! I can see Holmgren wanting Flynn, because of the system, and cold weather similarities with Green Bay, and he and/or Green Bay may prefer playing in the AFC vs. playing against his old team. Plus, he had a pretty good experience with another former Green Bay back-up in Hasselback.
Because of the weather? The system? ... They're in position to draft RG3. The greatest deep thrower I have ever seen in college football, and his speed is at least at Mike Vick's level.

Flynn is not Hasselback. Just like Colt McCoy is not Brett Favre.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:00 AM   #434
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Do the Packers need to be under the cap at all times or do they just need to be under the cap on a certain date?

Also, if they were to tag and then trade Flynn then couldn't they tag Finley after Flynn is traded?

I don't know the answers to those questions. I'm simply asking anyone who does to educate me on the rules.

They can only use the tag on one person per year. If they were to use it on Flynn, they wouldn't be able to use it on Finley.

However, if they use it on Flynn, and trade him, they will take a cap hit, if I'm correct, even though he's not on the team. So you would be looking at Green Bay taking a decent cap hit for a guy not on the team, and still having to sign their free agents. I just don't see it happening. I"m not totally positive on the type of cap hit they'll take by franchising and trading. I do know teams can't franchise players with the sole purpose of trading them. I hate bleacher report, but this article is decent on the subject.

2012 NFL Free Agents: Packers Would Be Brilliant to Sign-and-Trade Matt Flynn | Bleacher Report

This is partly why the Colts will not be able to pay Peyton the $28 million bonus AND trade him. The cap hit they'll take would make it a stupid decision.
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They can only use the tag on one person per year. If they were to use it on Flynn, they wouldn't be able to use it on Finley.

However, if they use it on Flynn, and trade him, they will take a cap hit, if I'm correct, even though he's not on the team. So you would be looking at Green Bay taking a decent cap hit for a guy not on the team, and still having to sign their free agents. I just don't see it happening. I"m not totally positive on the type of cap hit they'll take by franchising and trading. I do know teams can't franchise players with the sole purpose of trading them. I hate bleacher report, but this article is decent on the subject.

2012 NFL Free Agents: Packers Would Be Brilliant to Sign-and-Trade Matt Flynn | Bleacher Report

This is partly why the Colts will not be able to pay Peyton the $28 million bonus AND trade him. The cap hit they'll take would make it a stupid decision.
Agreed, it's highly likely this doesn't happen. But, Flynn will not go to Cleveland, Miami or Seattle make sense, but not Cleveland.
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