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Old 01-13-2012, 10:09 AM   #61
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Last I heard, the Rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #62
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How about Kirk Cousins in burgundy and gold? i feel like he's that under the radar guy that the skins can pick up
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Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurat

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:52 PM   #64
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last i heard, the rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd
pay it! Now!!!
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My source told me they are prepared to give up whatever is necessary to get RG3, and are prepared to give up two firsts and (don't quote me on this part) a third (or he said second and third; I don't remember).

He also said Shanahan is looking at it like this, whats the point of saving all these future picks, if his future here is donzo for next year, should he fail with a less quality player (Tannehill for example), than with a high energy-high quality player like RG3 who could bring your team to a winning record. Shanny also knows that snyder likes the big name. If us fans are going ''ahh tannehill'' snyder will here and agree and put Shanahan on a tighter lesh. If its RG3 the fans will like it based on potential, and snyder will like it because its a big name that will put fans in the seats, and it will certainly buy shanahan longer time here in DC. The High quality/potential guy will buy him time, the low quality guy won't.


As for other tid-bits he told me.

I asked him about Matt Flynn, he said he hasn't heard much about him.

Asked about Andrew Luck, he said we all like him, but we all know he's Indy bound.

I asked if we can trade or cut Dhall, he gave me a tight-lipped politically correct answer.
This year's 1st and 2nd and next year's 1st and 3rd? I'd be OK with that as long as they can land a true #1 in free agency and some O-line help. The RBs and TEs are plenty talented.... at least enough to make the Offense productive with good QB play.

They'd still have 6 picks this year and I believe 7 next year. They've shown they can find some solid players in the mid to late rounds. They could still bring Rex back and draft another QB late or bring in an undrafted guy.

But couldn't Cleveland trump our offer with 2 first round picks THIS year? We'd need them to make a run at Flynn.
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But couldn't Cleveland trump our offer with 2 first round picks THIS year? We'd need them to make a run at Flynn.
With the price that high I actually see both us and Cleveland as less of a threat to trade up for RG3 and see Miami and Seattle suddenly as major players. Anyway at Smoots reported Rams price I'd rather sign Flynn. My price was a 1st and 2nd this year and a conditional 3rd that could turn into a 2nd next year.
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I can understand where Shanny is comming from, if he doesn't make the right move for the right guy it will be his last year in Washington the stakes are very high.
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2012 1st rounder
2012 3rd rounder
2013 1st rounder
2013 3rd rounder

for RGIII??? I'd do it.
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How about Kirk Cousins in burgundy and gold? i feel like he's that under the radar guy that the skins can pick up
i dont think so. i personally see him as nothing more than a backup/game manager.
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:00 AM   #70
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For a little perspective from SI. Here is the deal for Eli Manning: A 1st and 3rd in the draft year and 1st and 4th the following year. Seems like alot but they are reaping the benefits of having a very good qb. They picked 4th that year. Of course, I guess they could have stayed at 4 and picked up Rivers/Rothlesberger. I guess if you like a QB, you gotta go get him.

Accorsi offered the Giants' first- and third-round picks in '04, and an '05 first-rounder. "We still want Osi,'' Smith told him.

Tick, tick, tick ...

Two minutes left.

Accorsi's last, best offer.

"No Osi,'' he said. "That's still a deal-breaker. But we'll throw in a six next year.''

Pause on the line from San Diego.

Tick, tick, tick ...

"Make it a four,'' Smith said.

"I'll give you a five,'' Accorsi said.


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Mike: Right now itís easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. Thereís no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means youíre convinced the player will be elite. If youíre not convinced, donít do it. Thereís nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If thatís Griffin, get him and donít hesitate.

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Mike: Right now itís easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. Thereís no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means youíre convinced the player will be elite. If youíre not convinced, donít do it. Thereís nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If thatís Griffin, get him and donít hesitate.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, Chandler Harnish from his senior year.
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I know it's a highlight tape, but impressive for a guy nobody is talking about yet.
I see one concern is he does not taking any snaps from under center so this will hurt him when scouts look at the tape. He will be a late round project.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Chandler Harnish from his senior year.
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I know it's a highlight tape, but impressive for a guy nobody is talking about yet.
I guess he does not take any snaps from under center in his college offense. This will hurt his draft stock.
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Wait a year and draft Barkley
Starting to sound like a pretty decent option. Imagine what the team would look like next year with 8-10 new draft picks and another round of free agency. Would be a great situation for someone like Barkley to walk into. Won't happen, but wouldn't be the end of the world.
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